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I'd say give the standard 155 Sierra Palma a very serious trial.They are very often a top choice,within your parameters,and very seldom a disappointing one.Many shooters would not see these as a compromise. The odds are that the small primer option would indeed get lost in the noise.Good shooting. gbal

Nice. Are the Rempels using an anschutz rail-and just camming in? The adaptor set for 'QD" studs seems to need some stock holes boring...which I am reluctant to do....Good solid bipod though-less fiddly than the Evo perhaps. G

Come on Steve-you can shoot your own groups like that,no need to buy pre perforated targets!

It is quite hard on the thumbs-if you're getting ball ache you are probably doing something wrong! Of course,it's essential for tight neck chambers-a one off torture,as Spud notes.It doesn't separate the men from the supermen,but it does help separate the one small group from the regular small group aggregates. Gbal-ake ps:anything written by G Salazar is top notch info,clear,detailed,well written,authoritative,none better.

The 1938 218 Bee is a little larger capacity than the Hornet and more of a bottle neck regular case shape but not as big as say,the Rem 221 Fireball,and rimmed of course.The Mashburn Bee mentioned is just one of several wildcatted improved versions,giving a 55g bullet the same velocity as the Bee gives a 45g,which was something like 2750-2800fps,with the 55g around 2500fps.A bit better in it's time than the Hornet,but the 222 made them obsolete as varmint small game numbers.It has the advantage of reduced report,but also reduced range-max 200y on small game.Never had much of a choice of rifles,and just did not catch on in any big way.Modern loading would improve a bit,as it has with the Hornet,but as seen,brass is rare-unless it's made from the original parent case,the 32-20 or 25-20,not exactly commonplace over here either. An enthusiast's number,given the Hornet is readily available,and the Fireball is considerably better ballistically. Gbal

Hi Shuggie,I'm sure there will be some posts. I thought what you said was honest,ethical,and good advice.And all the more impressive from a BooBoo (or Yogi) shooter! There are non custom rifles that will shoot .5 moa,as I'm sure we shall hear.Your point about the non linear group size is typiclly missed though.A .5 moa (6mm,80g@3000fps) rifle at 100 yards will not shoot reliable 2.5 inch groups at 500y(which might be where long range begins,rather than ends).It's more like a 4-5 inch dispersion.The near 100% hit rate for such a rifle on clays,is about 250 yards (assumes no shooting error) This does make some assumptions-eg that wind reading will be out by 2mph (in 10mph),but also the small,but sometimes cumulative unavoidable physics/field factors/variables. If anyone has doubts,do the math(s),or easier,just accept Brian Litz's math. Of course,many shooting performances will be better-much better on occasions...but the bottom line remains. So,thanks for raising this-it needs some discussion,given some of the claims made on occasions-note,there is a lot of real (competition) data...such as Fclass at 600y. Gbal

All these beasts seem to offer the world something more while alive. Does that suggest a moral argument against shooting them for one person's gratification? Gbal

is nothing sacred? We need a papal bull on this. Gbal scots covenanter family,just to cover all bases.

'Long Range' or something similar,I think.Not UKV

For gourmet varminters,there is always the big Crayfish Shoot in,I think, Louisiana.Sounds like fun,if they are in a decent size barrel.Have you been Vince?

It's not nearly so complex out to say 200 yards-just check some trajectory charts-but you do need to get far more technical-as per this advice-if you want to go longer.Try to get an experienced shooter to guide you through the basics.What is the 'paper work' nightmare?FAC?Quite like SGC,really.Owning a rifle is a serious responsibility,as is eg driving a car.FLO should be able to help. george