David Hancock Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'm returning to shooting having had a break. Previously had a fabulous Anschutz in .17HMR and a custom .204 Ruger which was frankly disappointing. The practical side of me suggests a .223 with 40 grainers but I like the idea of a .20Tac which has more clout than a .17Fireball. 22-250 is too much. Single shot spec. The permissions I have will cover it. Range 100 - 350 yards, vermin including fox. Budget - flexible. Thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi Dave, Are you saying that you found the 204 cartridge dissappointing or the rifle itself? The 20 Tac is ballisticly similar, if you want superior ballistics in a .20 you need to look at the .20BR. However IMO and many others will agree, the 6mmBR is probably the best varmint cartridge for UK style varmint shooting. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 20BR, 6BR or my favourite 22BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasekaye Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 How is .22-250 too much? Just interested Cheers Jase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 A 223 would do the trick but it's a bit boring really. For my 2p I'd go for the 17 Ackley Hornet on the basis that it's quiet, cheap to run, amazingly accurate, gives you a light gun and with almost no recoil so you retain the sight picture all the way through. You know it makes sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 A 223 would do the trick but it's a bit boring really. For my 2p I'd go for the 17 Ackley Hornet on the basis that it's quiet, cheap to run, amazingly accurate, gives you a light gun and with almost no recoil so you retain the sight picture all the way through. You know it makes sense.... Thank you all for your replies:- - My .204 was a blueprinted Rem 700, but would not group at all. With work and handloading I could have sorted it but it supposed to come with a 1MOA guarantee. - 22-250 . . . interesting but possibly too much noise even moderated. - I'm not an expert in handloading and time at present is tight. I do like the look of the Anschutz .223. Best regards all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordang Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I have a 20tac which is a fantastic round, easy to load for and fits your requirements very nicely, but having seen alot of what the 22br can do recently, I think that is where my cash would go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballistic Hamster Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I shoot .22 B/R and it does everything i need, from a 60 grain to a 75 grain and almost no recoil and little nose with a mod, and very accurate, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaitsev Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 If I were you I would look on the classifieds here right quick. Dasherman is selling a sako 75 .20 tac at a bargain price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Sounds like the 204 was a bad one. Tac20 will do what you want fine, I use 20BR and that is also a fine round with a bit more clout than TAC20 but sub 300 yards there is nothing in it much. Going to 6mm you will need deer somewhere as well to justify it, the 6mm does have a bit more authority on impact yes but with my 20 even unmoddied I see the impacts. My 20BR has been out to just over 250 yards this summer on charlie with no issues at all. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir-slots-alot Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 For my 2p I'd go for the 17 Ackley Hornet on the basis that it's quiet, cheap to run, amazingly accurate, gives you a light gun and with almost no recoil so you retain the sight picture all the way through. So just like the 223 then... the 223 is a superb little round easily capable of of varminting at the ranges suggected.... and much futher. Using my 223 , I have head shot rabbits at 300 yrds. Something no doubt that other members with other calibres . also do. If your wanting to shoot out to 350 yrds & beyond (maybe) I would avoid the 17 calibre ( sorry Conish man , only my opinion ) I have had a 17 rem , although they are flat shooting , the piddling little pill is seriously affected by cross winds and lose velocity for fun at range beyond 300 yrds.. Well , more than a decent 22 bullet IME . Quite franky , I dont see the 17 Ackley Hornet , performing aswell as the 17 rem did at 350 yrds. I am sure the 20 Tac or a 22 BR would also be a great choice. Last point , Alycidon ... I have my 243 for fox ..not deer ...so again it seems , different constabularies putting their own spin on the law. ATB Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snap_shot Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Sounds like you really did get a bad .204, i've seen some amazing shots with one, in ruger m77, he then changed for a sako for a drop mag. and it simply wouldn't even touch the accuracy of the ruger..... SO then he changed for a howa, and its a tack driver...... hes taking crows out to slightly over 500 yards on a good day... using 39 grain blitzkings..... good luck with your decision i hope you get something nice... Snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Geoff, My Cooper was down for fox,vermin and ground game but not deer. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Geoff, My Cooper was down for fox,vermin and ground game but not deer. Ian. You must have bent over for our FEO , You know what aggro I had with him over the stalking by the day episode. That was only 2 years or so ago but he was trying it on IMHO. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 You must have bent over for our FEO , You know what aggro I had with him over the stalking by the day episode. That was only 2 years or so ago but he was trying it on IMHO. A Yeah he was most definately taking the pi$H over your condition! Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menial 1 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Sounds like the 204 was a bad one. Tac20 will do what you want fine, I use 20BR and that is also a fine round with a bit more clout than TAC20 but sub 300 yards there is nothing in it much. Going to 6mm you will need deer somewhere as well to justify it, the 6mm does have a bit more authority on impact yes but with my 20 even unmoddied I see the impacts. My 20BR has been out to just over 250 yards this summer on charlie with no issues at all. A Geoff, you'd be able to watch impacts with that barrel of yours if it was chambered 338LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 If your wanting to shoot out to 350 yrds & beyond (maybe) I would avoid the 17 calibre ( sorry Cornishman , only my opinion ) I have had a 17 rem , although they are flat shooting , the piddling little pill is seriously affected by cross winds and lose velocity for fun at range beyond 300 yrds.. Well , more than a decent 22 bullet IME . Quite franky , I dont see the 17 Ackley Hornet , performing aswell as the 17 rem did at 350 yrds. ATB Alan Truthfully I'd have to agree that a 17 cal probably isn't up to 350 yard shooting but in that situation I'd advocate getting closer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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