Guest Sprags Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have just reloaded 50 rounds for the Ackley and each time I seat a bullet I take it out of the press and put it straight in the bullet comparator to check the length. Do I need to check each one or is this a bad habit that needs to stop? I can see the sense in checking, but each one? Regards,Sprags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 THATS HOW I DO IT MATE J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menial 1 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 O.C.D Gray. I bet you use a lot of that which promotes growth and vigour paper Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 O.C.D Gray.I bet you use a lot of that which promotes growth and vigour paper Pete. Your not wrong Pete!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 THATS HOW I DO IT MATEJ Cheers Spud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Once you have your die set up then everything coming out should be the same assuming you have raised the case fully in the press. Maybe measure 1 in 10 but thats it. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stag1933 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 You can check machine error as many times as you like but the biggest source of error is MAN ERROR. There is a bus load of one-hole rifles out there but very few passengers capable of putting the shot into the same hole. HWH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 ok if you are checking oal with vernier its very bad habit to check each one or if you are using a comparator boss then it not so bad but still a waist of time if you are checking each then adjusting the seating depth then this is very very bad because each bullet tip can vary a lot but each area of bullet that engages the rifling doesnt vary that much......... so adjusting each round greatly increases/decreases internal case volume and so increases/decreases chamber pressure and velocity set die till happy, lock off tight and leave at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 It's a senseless waste of effort. If it's too short, what is to be done? If it's long and running it into the seater doesn't change the length, what then? Gad! If I had to agonize over each cartridge like that I'd hate reloading. Do you enjoy the practice? If not, don't! Load, shoot, have fun.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballistic Hamster Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 If it ant broken Dont fix it ! l do the same with each round better to check and fix at home than on the field and think it is you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 are people saying that they measure and adjust each round to give exact oal measures??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? if so you know less about reloading than you think you know and potentually its dangerous go sit down and do some more thinking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 absolute wast of time as been said before what are you going to do if they are wrong? you should not be altering your press for every bullet. and if you are buy a good press. if you are getting veering measurements then learn how to measure as if you have good equipment then i will bet you my last pond that it is you and not your equipment. so y do your own head in as the distance from the shell holder to the bullet seater in the die is all ways going to be the same. if you do a full stroke of the press. set it up and make sure everything is tight then run your ammo through the press.if you want measure every 10th one. but i don't even do this as they are always the same. ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 i have to disagree a little bit but not a lot, i personally weigh every charge to get uniform charges just for a safety point and measure length using a comparater for the same reason, its quick and easy to do as i am measuring one round whilst the scales are settling for the next charge to be weighed. yes it is a bit anal, but why do WE spend a lot of money on other decent components on/in our rifles just to bung a bullet together why tumble it doesnt make a difference what they look like, but its all about confidence in the ammo you are using by doing this method i have noticed that sometimes there is 2-3 thou difference in bullet length to the ogive, i dont alter any thing but its an eye opener just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I never said I measure and adjust each round, I do not adjust anything, I just measure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 not on about weighing/sorting/adjusting powder throw if you adjust each bullet seating to measure exact oal not ogive or maybe even ogive then at best ie ogive its a waste of time or worst ie oal its dangerous and you need to go think about it some more no digs meant at anyone person, just this has been covered before your seater die doesnt push directly on the tip of the bullet but does push closer to the ogive therefore because of differences in bullet lengths due to their design the internal volume of the case, even if oal is different on each, will be the same lets think about that a mo.......... put two bullets, same batch, same type with say ballistic tip for example (or hollow point) side by side pointing up on a flat suface, sometimes their oal is so different you can see it by the naked eye both bullets weigh the same, or as good as it gets but one is slightly longer than the other so if you seat both bullets to give exact oal then both cases now have different internal volume which will have a greater effect on pressure and velocity than the differnce would be if the two bullets seated at the same ogive meaning that, although it would appear, by measuring oal, that they different jumps to lands actual jump to ogive wouldnt vary anywhere near as much so the vel/pressure are the same and give consitant loads as said, adjusting each round to give same oal will dramaticly increase/decrease pressure/vel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 if you adjust each bullet seating to measure exact oal not ogive or maybe even ogive then at best ie ogive its a waste of time or worst ie oal its dangerous and you need to go think about it some more Once again, I adjust nothing, I measure, thats all. . . . . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 do you wish you had never asked spraggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 do you wish you had never asked spraggs Yes Spud I do, it's situations like this that make you think twice before posting anything........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 in conclusion: to this thread, it's not necessary to measure every single round but you can if you want. NUFF SAID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrek Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 havent had much time to do any reloading latly, however i usuall just load up a batch then half way though pick 3 or 4 at random and check. However what i havent heard mentioned yet is that when i seat a bullet, i drop the cylinder, spin the bullet 90 degrees in the shell holder then push it back into the seater, i feel thst checks concentricity, maybe not, but as Spud quite rightly said, it gives an underlaying confidence that everything is put together properly! (just a warning if anyone starts spinning the case in the shell holder.... WATCH YOUR FINGERS.... trust me it hurts!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 However what i havent heard mentioned yet is that when i seat a bullet, i drop the cylinder, spin the bullet 90 degrees in the shell holder then push it back into the seater, i feel thst checks concentricity, maybe not, but as Spud quite rightly said, it gives an underlaying confidence that everything is put together properly! (just a warning if anyone starts spinning the case in the shell holder.... WATCH YOUR FINGERS.... trust me it hurts!) I do exactly the same Shrek, and I know what you mean about your fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossandjet Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I do the same as you guys, but I only check about 1 in 5 for the length but I used to measure each one. It's just a confidence thing, no harm in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 If it ant broken Dont fix it !l do the same with each round better to check and fix at home than on the field and think it is you !! you are missing the point and I didnt say you sprags or spud so spud climb down and read the above quote from this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 do you wish you had never asked spraggs one could easily read that as a bit rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 one could easily read that as a bit rude no offence meant, just an observation betwean me and spaggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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