hattori.hanzo Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Hi all,did you test the cal 7mm/.284 Win Hornady 180gr ELD Match bullets over the Lapua 180gr Scenar-L yet?The Scenar-L shoot well but the ELD-M bullets do have a much higher BC. Also, the Scenar-L bullet overall length vary a lot, because of the bullet tip, which is not unique.Do you have any comments on my thoughts above?Many thanksUwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I've shot both bullets in my 284 at around 2800fps.. I've not done a side by side comparison but they both shoot great.. Scenars don't blow up if pushed like the ELDM'S can/do. I've not lost one at 2800fps but I know some who have going over 2850fps.. My saum blows them up at 2950fps. Since my last blow up I've put 700 or more bergers through my saum without an issue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattori.hanzo Posted October 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Thanks for your reply. Whats do you mean with the Hornady can blow up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Yes they blow up.. They get a few hundred yards out and bullet decintragrates in a puff of what looks like dust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No i deer Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I think it was the 6.5cal 147gr ELDM's blowing up in this video.. Search Accurate shooter for lots more info on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I think most lead core jacketed bullets can blow up if there pushed and span fast enough.. It's probaly a jacket problem.. Just too thin or soft.. The Atips can blow up apparently.. For competitive shooting use the scenars as a blow up will cost you 5 points that's why I stopped using them in my saum.. Great accuracy until they don't make the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattori.hanzo Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I‘ll stay with Lapua since they are available more frequently. As soon as the exchange rate for USD will reach healthy regions again, I might go for a trim and pointing tool to get rid of the inconsistent looking bullet tips of the Scenar-L. Many thanks to all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I thought the scenar l's come factory pointed these days.. I've not used any scenars for getting on a couple of years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattori.hanzo Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 They are not trimmed/pointed at all, but it would be nice if Lapua would do it by default. 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I think you'll find they do the 7mm 180s. Maybe somebody else could confirm this..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 8 hours ago, hattori.hanzo said: They are not trimmed/pointed at all, but it would be nice if Lapua would do it by default. 🙃 You have a older batch of 180 L's, you would be hard pushed to see the difference in meplat between them and Berger 180 Hybrids or VLD with the newer Scenar 180 L's. I did a test with pointing the older 180 L's, with very pointed, normally pointed and not pointed. I shot them at 1000 yards and there wasn't any difference in the point of impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 There you go 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattori.hanzo Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Elwood said: You have a older batch of 180 L's, you would be hard pushed to see the difference in meplat between them and Berger 180 Hybrids or VLD with the newer Scenar 180 L's. I did a test with pointing the older 180 L's, with very pointed, normally pointed and not pointed. I shot them at 1000 yards and there wasn't any difference in the point of impact. This is awesome news! I bought 1.700 Scenar-L last year. They are not pointed and have pretty ugly tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Then you bought old stock I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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