.22 LR

[AHPP]

Anybody doing/done much with a .22 LR in terms of (relatively) longer range shooting?

What sort of ranges have you chaps pushed one out to; what sort of groups and what sort of drops?

 

I've been toying with the idea of being a bit more scientific with mine and see what can be done at longer ranges.

Will shoot some paper at 200 yards when I've got Exbal re-installed on the PDA and go from there.

 

Let's hear the tall tales!

[Chris-NZ]

Let's hear the tall tales!

 

 

 

As mentioned before, a rabbit at LRF-verified 187yds. Shot off deck with Win subs in perfectly calm conditions. Don't ask me the MOA come-up - from memory, it was about 40% down the thicker sidepost of the reticle. I'd shot a bird a min before at about 40yds closer so had some idea of the holdover. Still a very unlucky rabbit.. Picture is at full zoom on pocket digital.

 

 

 

 

On another topic, a shooting mate just dropped off a free venison. He got two yesterday morning during a freebie shoot at one of his client's private game farms. For storing them in my cooler workshop, I get to keep one

 

 

 

Chris-NZ

[Andrew]

Decades back there was a 200 yard competition here in the US for .22LR called "The Long Range Game" The last recorded match I could find from the Springfield Armory was in the 1930's but it was basically a 1/5 scale 1000 yard shoot. It was considered very difficult but the wind doping for the ammo of the day was similar to the 30-06 service round at 1000 yards so it was good practice.

 

I don't push any 22LR round past 100 yards on game... even prairiedogs which I hate. It isn't that you can't hit them, it's the lack of killing power. ~Andrew

[Redfox]

I agree a total lack of respect for the game after 100yds with a 22rf, the fast ones are not accurate and the subs have no energy left! and I regularly head shoot rabbits out to 80yds or so with Eley and Lapua subs.

Redfox

[AHPP]

Good shooting, Chris. Reckon you could do it again? Reckon you could do it 13 yards further?

 

Energy wise, how much has a 40 grain sub got left at 100, 150 and 200?

[AHPP]

Andrew,

 

The scaled down 1000 yard match sounds like a cool idea in the same way that scaled down "tactical" matches do. Unknown distance targets and .22LR ballistics would be bloody challenging. Requires less space and less of that tedious walking distance between firing point and target too!

[1967spud]

The .22 rd is a loverly round and i bet alot of people who shoot rifles cut their teeth on them, but as already stated 100 yds is enough.

[Grouse]

Just in the process of flogging my old and tired BRNO for something else, and thought I would give it a last few shots before it goes to new owner, anyway 6 midi clays at 120 yds all broke cleanly, wandering whether I should be selling it after all - the lure of a new shiny weapon!!!

[Andrew]

Just in the process of flogging my old and tired BRNO for something else, and thought I would give it a last few shots before it goes to new owner, anyway 6 midi clays at 120 yds all broke cleanly, wandering whether I should be selling it after all - the lure of a new shiny weapon!!!

 

Your Brno doesn't sound "tired" to me! As to being "old", well, the Hope Diamond is old, too! I hope you don't regret giving it up.~Andrew

[AHPP]

This .22 business is showing a bit of promise!

 

Had a very pleasing session at a nice sedate patch last week. Good weather. No wind to speak of. Hit a few rabbits at reasonably short range and was getting good results on golf balls at 110 ish. Spotted two rabbits across the way but couldn't get prone (I was on a slope leaning towards them) so got on my elbows and ran the Educated-Guess-o-matic ballistic engine.

First one rolled over, pulled the second shot in excitement but connected again with the third.

From memory, I was holding 2 dots (5x mag on a 5-15x scope - assume mildots true at 10x so call it 4 mils) and Google Earth reckons the range was 150/160 yards!

 

I was either lucky or on good form. Most likely a bit of both.

 

Will grab some pictures next time I'm there.

 

Must get a rangefinder and some science to do this repeatably.

Anyone know the ballistic co-efficient of a 40 grain Winchester sub hollowpoint?

[Ratwhiskers]

Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy

(yd) (MOA) (mil) (MOA) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs)

50 -0.0 -0.0 2.4 0.7 990.6 0.890 95.9

75 -3.0 -0.9 3.4 1.0 953.5 0.857 88.8

100 -6.8 -2.0 4.4 1.3 921.0 0.827 82.9

125 -11.0 -3.2 5.4 1.6 891.8 0.801 77.7

150 -15.6 -4.5 6.4 1.8 865.1 0.777 73.1

175 -20.4 -5.9 7.3 2.1 840.3 0.755 69.0

200 -25.5 -7.4 8.2 2.4 817.1 0.734 65.2

225 -30.8 -9.0 9.1 2.6 795.2 0.714 61.8

250 -36.4 -10.6 10.0 2.9 774.3 0.696 58.6

275 -42.3 -12.3 10.8 3.2 754.4 0.678 55.6

300 -48.3 -14.1 11.7 3.4 735.1 0.660 52.8

 

Ran this off JBM/eskimo 40grn subsonic BC .125 velocity 1080f/ps. Hope this helps.

[Alycidon]

I have been to about 125 yards with subbies with an Anshultz bolt action and one evening had 8 for 9 shots at ranges from 100 to 115 in some young peas, luckily saw the first bullet impact well short. These days I max at 70 yards and reach for a bigger gun on anything further.

 

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[AHPP]

Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy

(yd) (MOA) (mil) (MOA) (mil) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs)

50 -0.0 -0.0 2.4 0.7 990.6 0.890 95.9

75 -3.0 -0.9 3.4 1.0 953.5 0.857 88.8

100 -6.8 -2.0 4.4 1.3 921.0 0.827 82.9

125 -11.0 -3.2 5.4 1.6 891.8 0.801 77.7

150 -15.6 -4.5 6.4 1.8 865.1 0.777 73.1

175 -20.4 -5.9 7.3 2.1 840.3 0.755 69.0

200 -25.5 -7.4 8.2 2.4 817.1 0.734 65.2

225 -30.8 -9.0 9.1 2.6 795.2 0.714 61.8

250 -36.4 -10.6 10.0 2.9 774.3 0.696 58.6

275 -42.3 -12.3 10.8 3.2 754.4 0.678 55.6

300 -48.3 -14.1 11.7 3.4 735.1 0.660 52.8

 

Ran this off JBM/eskimo 40grn subsonic BC .125 velocity 1080f/ps. Hope this helps.

 

 

Thanks for that. How accurate have you found these figures out of real gun? I need to work out how big a target backer I need!

[Redfox]

They are well optimistic on energy based on Eleys figures and my chrographed results too. a lot depends on the rifle as well, Ruger and Sako are well up near the 1000fps with subs, Cz/ Brno and Marlin are between 100/150fps slower as their barrels are not as tight and are not choked towards the muzzle.eley ony claim around 90ftlbs at the muzzle down to around 82ftlbs at 50 yds pro rata.

 

Redfox

[silentsoulsleave308holes]

years ago I did shoot a bunny at 356 yards 22rf confirmed and whitnessed by friend and bisley range official (at the time)

 

however.............it wasnt a cold bore shot and I had been pushing the lil gun to see how far she could reliably go.

 

no wind, dialed up as far as it would go AND after walking her out using hold over I found an aim point right at the bottom of the ret and found that the rounds were landing reliably in the same place at the dirt patch at the bottom of the of a fence post

 

then a bunny hopped right where I had been shooting and wasnt a match for an annie 54 with a super match trigger 8-32 scope and ely match eps and it died instantly

[Ratwhiskers]

l did about the same as Silent on my patch, held over on a rock that was bunny size till l'd got it nailed they dropped 5/6 bunnies off the warren 30yrds over.

Wot l did see due to the ground having been tilled, were the rounds passing right through and bouncing off the ground beyond to then ping through the hedge into the next field.... hmm....no blinkin wonder they put 2000yrd warnings on the box

l only did this once, and must admit that most of my shots are taken at very close range due to the ground l'm on.