Scotch_egg Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 The March Genesis was launched today at IWA. It is aimed at the ELR market. It has some seriously innovative features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee w 118 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just wached the video scotch ,whith Gary costello ,not my cup of tea but interesting never the less, who imports them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Scotch, handled it today at the IWA. Same sort of principle as uso sn9 - which I’ve had a couple of for ELR, however the March gimbal system should be an improvement over the uso ball joint system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 It’s good to see innovation although not a scope I have any use for. I remember seeing your US optics SN-9 David. It was huge. Is this scope enough to tempt you back into ELR??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Nope, my ELR days are gone with the AW50. The 338 really never gets used beyond 1km and usually only to 800m these days. The Genesis would not look out of place on the AXMC but it is a question if 60x offers me anything over 40x magnification with regards to seeing shots on target - it’s still a 56mm objective. It’s about resolution rather than magnification. There is time to see how it will be refined and I will wait for the milrad version anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yeap , Should have a bigger front lens , and mrad finer than std 1cm , 0.5cm like the old Zeiss 72mm , actually a zeiss 72mm on a Ivey mount would maybe better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Chris, 0.05 mrad clicks should not be an issue, I have them on my March 5-40x56 fx scopes. I guess for an ELR scope they should be standard. Objective size is always going to be a compromise on an external adjustment scope - bigger objective = less elevation adjustment before the objective bell contacts the barrel or forend tube. March are making two heights for the actual mount - the one pictured and a higher one for tube guns. Cheek piece / comfort height is then an issue. Personally having had an 80mm objective on the sn9 anything more than 65mm would awkward for me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRGNXL Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 @ds1 how did you like the SN9? I scouted for a sh one for sometime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 SRGNXL, personally I would not buy another one. The two sn9’s I had did not track as consistently as conventional scopes ( on my USO collimator) nor did they hold POI as well which came down to tolerances in the front gimbal. There were also other issues - a long / extended picatinny rail is needed to mount the optic and with a 80mm objective mounting height is very high ( obviously an adjustable cheek piece is needed). Resolution was excellent. The best of breed of that system would be the March Genesis. From what I understand there are no POI and tracking issues and the integral mount is of reasonable length. If your not doing a fully dedicated ELR setup a ‘ normal scope’ with either Ivy mount or Charlie Tac unit would be the way I would go for a more versatile setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRGNXL Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Thanks that is helpful feedback.what about the AW50 ? I was thinking to acquire one, switch barrel to a 416barrett 38inch, add the LRA fclass bipod on a bigdog spigot and USO sn9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 The AW 50’s are an excellent bit of kit. I had the older version with the recoil system ( aka spring) in the butt. This made the cheek piece non adjustable but you could add padding. I also only used it in 50bmg but I got excellent results with lathe turned solids. I always used a Nightforce nsx on that rifle. The USO would have been a non starter due to mounting height. I would strongly recommend against a USO sn9 scopes having had two 80mm and one 58mm ( the 58mm I only had briefly). The issues were the same - the scopes do not hold poi or track. To explain: what you have in effect is a front ball / gimbal joint and on the rear two pusher springs holding the tube against two micrometers, that it - that’s all that keeps the scope body in place, now when you turn the front parallax you can see the reticule displace a small amount left or right using a collimator. I came up with a fix of a round pin in the bottom of the gimbal that USO made and installed in my scopes, this solved the rotational shift but you still got vertical shift from shot to shot as you always have some play in the gimbal for the evelation and windage adjustments to function ( ever wonder why the old Unertil scopes had a spring over the scope tube - in essence creating a return to battery system). In the end the scopes to me were not fit for purpose and there are better systems out there as mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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