devon flighter Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 finally got out to play properly with the new toy today ,i recently did a deal with james clark A.K.A jaeger SA on this semi custom howa based .223 with a bergara 1/9" barrel,boyds stock , mag conversion and ceracoated ,all put together VERY NICELY ,i was looking for a longer range fox tool at an affordable price ! and i certainly got it ,i ran the barrel in a couple of weeks back with some reloads from AN other http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gjc_album/guns/PA020502_zpsf7ddb8f4.jpg http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gjc_album/guns/PA040508_zpsc68aa51f.jpg after a bit of advice and a cracking deal at the speed of light from mark "spud 1967" i settled on some hornady dies and this is the result of both ! first load workings ! http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gjc_album/guns/PA220555_zpse5caeb9d.jpg http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gjc_album/guns/PA220554_zps020958b3.jpg CHUFFED ! given the conditions today ,wind 15-18mph and gusts to 27/28mph and a wobbly landy bonnet "YOU COULD SAY THAT !" thanks to both guys for a really fast efficient service at an excellent price ,i am quite certain that given a little work on the loads i can improve it a tadge more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Really cracking looking rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay666d Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Are you using 70 Grainers through that barrel or 69 Gr SMK's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 If you copy & paste the IMG code (one at the bottom) directly into your post it will show the pictures in the thread and save us loading them in photo bucket. Makes for a much faster viewing experience. Nice looking rifle and group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 thanks al ,technology is not one of my strong points lol do i need to re size the pics if i use THAT code and if so what do i size them to ?,thanks wee john im very pleased with it so far theres now way i could have afforded a full custom build but it goes to show that you dont always need to spend to get decent results ,it will be interesting to get out and try it off decent bags on a calm day rather than across the landy ,though in all fairness thats the way it will be used 95% of the time so thats what really matters ,now i would like to get a decent heavier load worked up as thats just some 50g vmax i had , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Use the code as it is, I just copied yours from your Photobucket account that your link took me to. If you ever need to resize then 800x600 is a good size for forums in general. Its so much easier for everyone of you paste the IMG code and we can see the pictures here on the forum within the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 cheers al ,when i tried it back along the pics were huge lol "it always said on old my school reports must try harder !!!!!!!!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisserge Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Beautiful looking rig! He can Plumb a tube rather well. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 apparently he can "B" !,i certainly dont class myself as anything other than an " OK" shot ! but for a first workings on a suitable load and the conditions on the day im very pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 it seems to like amax as well !200yds five shot ,still off the landy bonnet though! pleased with the velocity spread as well ,as i fired i knew the 2 rh shots were rushed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 If your after tight groups get a better rest, it's good practice off landy bonnet or roof ect but for testing a rifle not the best Nice rifle Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Shouldnt you be using Pythagoras theorem to calc your group size if the spread is on the diagonal? Or just measure across the widest point. Its about 0.8" according to my maths (which is very rusty). Still not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehole Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 thanks al ,technology is not one of my strong points lol do i need to re size the pics if i use THAT code and if so what do i size them to ?,thanks wee john im very pleased with it so far theres now way i could have afforded a full custom build but it goes to show that you dont always need to spend to get decent results ,it will be interesting to get out and try it off decent bags on a calm day rather than across the landy ,though in all fairness thats the way it will be used 95% of the time so thats what really matters ,now i would like to get a decent heavier load worked up as thats just some 50g vmax i had , Well mate that's some shooting!! if you can do that with 50grainers at 200 yards in a 15/18 mph wind with up to 30 mph! gusts off a landy bonnet I.d leave it at that as there are not much in the offerings for expanding heads to suit 1/9 twist save the 60 vmax ??maybe...O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Shouldnt you be using Pythagoras theorem to calc your group size if the spread is on the diagonal? Or just measure across the widest point. Its about 0.8" according to my maths (which is very rusty). Still not bad. That's some tricky offroad trigonometry,Garry! Widest edge to edge,minus calibre is the 'standard way" (which is 'widest centre to centre holes",but that's slightly harder to measure with callipers).But it derives from the rather neat but very small groups in Bench Rest,where .3 indicates a loose bonnet... Way back,string measure was used-essentially distances of each shot from the centre,and added - "how long is a piece of string"? Maybe for field groups,a simple widest diameter is best -eg on Gary's measure,a .8 circle would be the smallest to cover all the shots,and then any dispersal in the 'group'-largely chance,anyhow-is 'covered'. Conclusion stands whichever way,pretty decent 200y shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Well mate that's some shooting!! if you can do that with 50grainers at 200 yards in a 15/18 mph wind with up to 30 mph! gusts off a landy bonnet I.d leave it at that as there are not much in the offerings for expanding heads to suit 1/9 twist save the 60 vmax ??maybe...O Thanks ,got to say i am please with the groups but yesterday WAS calm! when i bought the rifle i bought it specifically for heavy er heads but looking at the balistics i can push 55g a lot faster than 60's and in my head anyway that seems to be the way to go up to 350 ish yards ! (which is probably about 90% of my shooting) the amax are tight and at a reasonable velocity so will probably stick with them for a while !though i have got some 60g vmax to try , OFF ROAD pythagerus is way beyond me lol your probably right though ! i just took an average of the diameter and took off the bullet diameter and charlie will have to accept that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 dev,quite right-so long as you say how you measure group,it's ok,and crucially way beyond Charlie's ken (to be fair,he'll be dead anyhow!) To a first approximation you are right ballistically-out to 300y or so (depends on cartridge),velocity has the edge,beyond that BC( advantage heavier bullets in calibre) takes over (esp for wind) as the light bullets shed velocity faster.By the same reckoning,"flat' is pretty relative too,in sensible choices, and out to 300+/- it's not a big deal-inch or so. gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 gbal ive been reading your posts for some time now and its slowly starting to sink in about balistics because of these !and this is what caused me to stop and be honest with myself over what ranges im going to be shooting at and work a load to suit rather aiming for the holly grail !i do like a bit of long range plinking (im no target shooter)and it would be good to get a long range load worked up for this gun for the future ! i chopped a 25-06 in for this which i used to shoot out to 6-700 yards with and thoroughly enjoy! though now i have moved im more limited to where i can do this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 gbal ive been reading your posts for some time now and its slowly starting to sink in about balistics because of these !and this is what caused me to stop and be honest with myself over what ranges im going to be shooting at and work a load to suit rather aiming for the holly grail !i do like a bit of long range plinking (im no target shooter)and it would be good to get a long range load worked up for this gun for the future ! i chopped a 25-06 in for this which i used to shoot out to 6-700 yards with and thoroughly enjoy! though now i have moved im more limited to where i can do this . The hornady 75 bthp are a good long range bullet with a 1-9 twist barrel. They also hit a hell of a lot harder than the 53vmax I also use for the shorter ranges out to 400 yards. You might get lucky and be able to stabilise the 75 grain amax. These were terrible in my rifle. At 600 yards they were about a 2 foot group!. The bthps stabilised no problem but I run them fairly hard- about 2900 fps using h4895. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Well mate that's some shooting!! if you can do that with 50grainers at 200 yards in a 15/18 mph wind with up to 30 mph! gusts off a landy bonnet I.d leave it at that as there are not much in the offerings for expanding heads to suit 1/9 twist save the 60 vmax ??maybe...O Nosler 60 G ballistic tips too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devon flighter Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 thanks for the encouragement ,advice and compliments guys ,ive just got some 60g vmax to try, as its for quarry they need to be expanding ! it would be good if i can get the velocity up with a decent group size and a heavier bullet as that was the original plan when i bought the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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