matchking Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Anybody use one of these?Wondering if there any better than std 56mm obj scopes. Thanks sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpd Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Anybody use one of these?Wondering if there any better than std 56mm obj scopes. Thanks sean Couldn't you just accidentally order one in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgobang88 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Hi, These are designed for European hunters who hunt boar from highseats at dusk, most places prohibit the use of night vision hence the large objective for light gathering. However, they are somewhat cumbersome if used for stalking and make for uncomfortable gun mounting, Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 There is only one chap I have seen in the UK with one. It was on a HMR IMHO the 56 is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 There was an article in Sporting Rifle last year I think it was (not sure which month)about a chap that was shooting foxes under the lamp with one on top of a 6mm-284. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Fitted one to a rimfire believe it or not, not long ago. I,ll bet its the same guy Scotch. Lovely scope, why zeiss think the hensoldt and this one dont need target turrets on both elevation AND windage is beyond me. The hensoldt is sold as a military tactical sight. Brightest picture i,ve ever seen, and lovely "warm " FOV. Really good colour contrasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Huge exit pupil too, its like a widescreen telly. I loved it but for the limited adjustment range on the turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I luv mine! Got it as an option to my 6-24x56 for my LRS2 .243 for high seat or static work and I affectionately call it the Hubble! Who needs lamps or NV on bright moonlit nights or when there's snow on the ground. As mentioned earlier, it would be a bit of a handful on an off-road pro stock, skinny barrel set up but I'd be happy with that if I needed to use it. Haven't I seen the guy from WMS using one in a YouTube or vid clip somewhere? It doesn't sit a lot higher than the 56 either...but then there is only a mm clearance on the barrel........... got a pic somewhere Humph! would only let me load one pic due to size. I agree with the comment on the windage needing to be a BDC turret too, it would help, especially as it's got the 60 dot reticle. That's me.. I love it.. and I love my x56's too, all with the discontinued 63 reticle. atb Fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchking Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Well i bit the bullet and bought one.I havn't had chance to go lamping with it yet but will get out next week and see what it is like.I must say whilst zeroing it seems to be very clear,Time will tell keep youre eyes on the classified ads you will soon know if it's any good. Cheers sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Well i bit the bullet and bought one.I havn't had chance to go lamping with it yet but will get out next week and see what it is like.I must say whilst zeroing it seems to be very clear,Time will tell keep youre eyes on the classified ads you will soon know if it's any good. Cheers sean Welcome to 'The Club' Sean. ... you could always use it as a club if all else fails......! atb FBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astroalan Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ive got one coming!!! Will tell you what its like very soon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Your rings went in the post today for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi, Is there any update to this thread, Looking at getting a 72 now you have all had chance to try these big scopes in anger in the last few minutes of day light. Is there much advantage over the 56mm Diavari FL model, forgetting all the mounting problems and being a little higher which helps with drop at the ranges it is going to be used at. Before I bit the bullet one get one ordered. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi, Many thanks for the quick response Ronny , got a new 56mm on loan to compare with my Leupold, which the Zeiss should be a lot better in those last few minutes but wanted to know if any one had chance to look through both the 56 and 72 side by side in the dark. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchking Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I have had mine for a while now, Don't really know whether it is any better than my 56mm zeiss. I have always been a swarovski man but bought the zeiss scopes because they have proper target turrets. If you don't need target turrets i would look at the Z6 2.5-15x56 i have a lot of these in the shop and to my eyes they are probaly the brightest scope out of them all. Would i buy another 72mm zeiss? only if it was cheap enough. One thing they are superb for is to have the piss ripped out of everytime someone sees it. If you are around south wales anytime and want to have a peak give me a shout. ATB SEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpd Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I demoed a 72mm hensoldt a couple of months ago. It wasn't really any brighter, but it did allow you to shoot on much higher magnification in low light conditions compared to other scopes. It's definitely quite a specialised piece of kit, and I don't necessarily think it offers much over any other piece of high end glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Matchking, Just put a Z6i 2.5-15x56 on my stalking rifle but was looking for something to go my fox rifle to replace my 4.5-14X50mm Leupold which struggles in the last few minutes. If you have both scope is there any chance you could look through both at last light to see if it makes much difference. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Danpd, From emails to the UK zeiss people I was told that 72mm hensoldt does not have the FL glass so the Diavari 72mm had better glass, They should know as they owned hensoldt.? It was the higher magnification benefit that attracted me to the 72 just wanted so idea of how much benefit you get at say 15x G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpd Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Danpd, From emails to the UK zeiss people I was told that 72mm hensoldt does not have the FL glass so the Diavari 72mm had better glass, They should know as they owned hensoldt.? It was the higher magnification benefit that attracted me to the 72 just wanted so idea of how much benefit you get at say 15x G I can't remember the precise magnification I was at, but I was able to zoom in enough that a roe doe was easily observed and hypothetically shootable at over 400yds in conditions where my 8x56 Zeiss binos were starting to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Pretty simple really, bigger objective means larger exit pupil for given magnification or more mag for same exit pupil. I ran the two alongside each other for a late evening rabbit shooting over stubble about 18 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi Hatzi, Thanks for that, from memory was there much visible difference between the two, did the 72mm give you an extra 10 to 15 minutes of shootable light for starters or more. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I cant remember, if i get time i will see if i can find and read the document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchking Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Don't buy a 72mm if you think your going to get an extra 15 mins over a 56mm you won't. I was watching a fox at around 400 yards saturday night with my 72 and a 240 blitz with no filter and could see it no probs. I could also see it through the 56mm couldn't tell a massive amount of difference maybe the 72mm has a slight edge. It depends whether you can put up with the extra weight and the scope being high of the stock, It doesn't bother me as i shoot off a truck and have an adj cheek piece. ATB SEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox1 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Don't buy a 72mm if you think your going to get an extra 15 mins over a 56mm you won't. I was watching a fox at around 400 yards saturday night with my 72 and a 240 blitz with no filter and could see it no probs. I could also see it through the 56mm couldn't tell a massive amount of difference maybe the 72mm has a slight edge. It depends whether you can put up with the extra weight and the scope being high of the stock, It doesn't bother me as i shoot off a truck and have an adj cheek piece.ATB SEAN Many thanks for the info I was more interested in the last few minutes of daylight.The weight is not a problem as it would be going on the rifle as I use mainly for shooting from either the truck or a static position. I still like the idea of the 72, even another 10 minutes of extra shooting time can make all the difference. From doing my homework on mounting it, that seems a bit of an nightmare finding 34mm mounts that are around the right height, they are either too low or far too high. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Mine went straight onto a third eye unimount with a 0 MOA rail on a rem 700 sendero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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