Dan534 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Hello, Have just returned from the first proper day of load development for my 6.5x47 Lapua AI AE Mk3 and wondered if people could advise on the results below, any advice is welcome. I loaded up several 123gr Sceanar loads using varget and Vit N140. This rifle has 30 rounds through the barrel and is still settling in. As you can see I was consistently throwing one shot out of every group , I believe this to be me and my position as I was shooting of a bench with Harris bi-pod and rear bag, and the target was slightly lower than the firing point, not as steady as it could have been. If it had not been for me dropping a shot out of every group the groups would have been respectable, the 4 rounds out of 38 gr load measured 0.097 inch center to center. As you can see the N140 surprisingly shot the best. All loads are just off the lands. The velocity figures for 38gr of N140 are 1) 2865 2) 2882 3) 2869 4) 2886 5) 2883 ES-21 This load showed no pressure signs and easy extraction so easy on brass but the ES seems high. The velocity figures for 38.5gr N140 are 1) 2903 2) 2899 3) 2903 4) 2898 5) 2900 ES-5 This load showed slight cratering of primers on 2 cases but no hard extraction. The ES is brilliant, however I'll take this as my max load and dont plan on using it for that reason. I'm wondering of there is a node in between the 38 and 38.5gr loads. I was going to load up some more rounds at 38.3gr or play with seating depths. Any thought??? Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 which shot is the one flier (first would be easy to explain) Looking at the targets some have one "flier" to the left - were you perfectly aligned / was there a slight breeze / you moving the stock slightly as you squeeze the trigger,,,,,,,,, I would look at .3 grain increment changes on the loads. Varget has always worked for me where others have failed with this calibre..... etc etc Nice groups by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I had awful problems getting scenars to shoot in my barrel for the same reason fliers! I switched to 120 Bergers and the problem resolved have you tried other bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Looks like the varget has given you a vertical fliers and the N140 lateral fliers. Infact, the N140 groups are distinctly less 'tall' than the varget ones. ......but I don't think there's anything to proceed with here- you say you were unstable; the group dispersions could be entirely about that, and nothing to do with the loads. If you change loads to chase data from poorly shot targets you'll just end up chasing your tail. I'd do nothing before I'd repeated the shoot - but got stable I'd hazard an intuitive guess though: Your centre bull is the load to stick with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 It was the 3rd or 4th shot on the n140 that the flier occurred. I was surprised with the varget, I was expecting it to shoot. I've not tried any other bullets as the scenars seem pretty popular. I thinks it position now thinking about it. I had similar fliers when I was testing my 6mm br from the same point, it now shoots perfectly fine with the same load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 New rifle, new trigger, exited, slight unstable platform, = odd flier. Agree centre load looks most promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Which primers are you using? CCI 450's are favoured generally. My 6.5x47 hated Scenars the same as a few others, I now use 120 Berger's or Amax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Which primers are you using? CCI 450's are favoured generally. My 6.5x47 hated Scenars the same as a few others, I now use 120 Berger's or Amax. using CCI 450's. If it does the same thing again next outing I will try different bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 using CCI 450's. If it does the same thing again next outing I will try different bullets. If it does the same thing next outing, get stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I suspect BD and Ronin are correct, but there were a lot of people who were having trouble with Scenars (European) and no issues at all with US bullets, apparently Scenars are a nats smidge smaller in diameter than Hornady/Sierra/Berger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 If it does the same thing next outing, get stable. And rebuild the firing point so its level. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Sorry to buck the trend- mine is a one-holer with Varget and Scenars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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