HORNET

[DEADFOX]

HI ALL

 

i do pest control on a lot golf corses at night

under a lamp mainly fox and noise is a problem.

 

i have had a cz 527 .22 hornet with t4 mod in the cabbinet for about 10 years

groups at 3" to 4" and enough fliers to get a pilots licence on factory fodder tride them all

so i thought float the barrel and pillerbed the action

 

so set to work full set of steak knvies tin of putty bag of hammers copper tube

and a lot of blood sweat and tears later off to punch paper

 

2 1/2" to 2 3/4" odd flier grrrrrrrrrrr

 

next step hand load so on the net to find a load

found this 10 1/2gr vit110 40gr vmax rem 7 1/2 sr brp oal 1.884

 

started at10gr .1 up to 10 1/2gr

first 4 groups 3/4" so so 10 1/2gr bingo 1/4" at 100yards

 

 

this round is to long for mag so single feed or alter mag to fit its not hard

 

i have been useing this load a week and shot 6 foxs out to 140yds sofar

not bad at all and it only took 10 years (all good things come to he who waits)

 

AS WITH ALL HAND LOADS START LOW AND WORK UP

 

 

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[Andrew]

HI ALL

 

i do pest control on a lot golf corses at night

under a lamp mainly fox and noise is a problem.

 

i have had a cz 527 .22 hornet with t4 mod in the cabbinet for about 10 years

groups at 3" to 4" and enough fliers to get a pilots licence on factory fodder tride them all

so i thought float the barrel and pillerbed the action

 

so set to work full set of steak knvies tin of putty bag of hammers copper tube

and a lot of blood sweat and tears later off to punch paper

 

2 1/2" to 2 3/4" odd flier grrrrrrrrrrr

 

next step hand load so on the net to find a load

found this 10 1/2gr vit110 40gr vmax rem 7 1/2 sr brp oal 1.884

 

started at10gr .1 up to 10 1/2gr

first 4 groups 3/4" so so 10 1/2gr bingo 1/4" at 100yards

 

 

this round is to long for mag so single feed or alter mag to fit its not hard

 

i have been useing this load a week and shot 6 foxs out to 140yds sofar

not bad at all and it only took 10 years (all good things come to he who waits)

 

AS WITH ALL HAND LOADS START LOW AND WORK UP

 

 

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

Interesting!

 

Try this: Trim to uniform length. Charge with 13.5 Grains Lil Gun, Hornady 35 grain VMax, a CCI or Federal small pistol primer, loaded to 1.725" and lightly crimped with a Lee factory Crimp Die. See how that works for you... ~Andrew

[Gunsgobang88]

HI ALL

 

i do pest control on a lot golf corses at night

under a lamp mainly fox and noise is a problem.

 

i have had a cz 527 .22 hornet with t4 mod in the cabbinet for about 10 years

groups at 3" to 4" and enough fliers to get a pilots licence on factory fodder tride them all

so i thought float the barrel and pillerbed the action

 

so set to work full set of steak knvies tin of putty bag of hammers copper tube

and a lot of blood sweat and tears later off to punch paper

 

2 1/2" to 2 3/4" odd flier grrrrrrrrrrr

 

next step hand load so on the net to find a load

found this 10 1/2gr vit110 40gr vmax rem 7 1/2 sr brp oal 1.884

 

started at10gr .1 up to 10 1/2gr

first 4 groups 3/4" so so 10 1/2gr bingo 1/4" at 100yards

 

 

this round is to long for mag so single feed or alter mag to fit its not hard

 

i have been useing this load a week and shot 6 foxs out to 140yds sofar

not bad at all and it only took 10 years (all good things come to he who waits)

 

AS WITH ALL HAND LOADS START LOW AND WORK UP

 

 

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

 

Hi Deadfox,

 

As mentioned in another post, the use of a small pistol primer gives a consistent 'burn' in a small capacity rifle case like the Hornet. I'm glad you stuck with the Hornet as it is superb round for suburban foxing. Incidentally, at the time of it's development it was the most accurate round ever tested by Springfield Arsenal,

 

Successful hunting

Alan

[DEADFOX]

Hi ANDREW

 

 

I load for 223 22/250 243 and the hornet ultrasonic clean and all the usual prep

neck size and crimp i did try LIL'GUN 35gr vmax rem 1 1/2 sp

ok not great gun likes 40gr nosler bt or 40gr vmax over vv110 alot more

i now have 3 tubs LIL'gun and 1000 35gr vmax sitting on the shelf

i feel some more experimenting comeing on

 

 

 

HI GUNSGOBANG 88

 

 

I tride small rifle small pistol sr bench rest primers

i have not seen much between them

so i use bench rest primers in my 223 and HORNET

plus i have about 5000 in stock

 

 

 

 

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT LADS

MUCH APPRECIATETED DEADFOX

[Andrew]

Hi ANDREW

 

 

I load for 223 22/250 243 and the hornet ultrasonic clean and all the usual prep

neck size and crimp i did try LIL'GUN 35gr vmax rem 1 1/2 sp

ok not great gun likes 40gr nosler bt or 40gr vmax over vv110 alot more

i now have 3 tubs LIL'gun and 1000 35gr vmax sitting on the shelf

i feel some more experimenting comeing on

 

 

 

HI GUNSGOBANG 88

 

 

I tride small rifle small pistol sr bench rest primers

i have not seen much between them

so i use bench rest primers in my 223 and HORNET

plus i have about 5000 in stock

 

 

 

 

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT LADS

MUCH APPRECIATETED DEADFOX

When you do, seat the bullet deep enough to function through the magazine.(If you haven't already) In the Hornet, Lil Gun likes to be compressed!~Andrew

[Gandy]

Must be very satisfying, would have been intresting to see what the gun would shoot without bedding and free floating.

[DEADFOX]

HI ANDREW

 

did some measureing to day and the 35gr vmax will touch the lands

so i will try 10 tho back and see how they group

the 40gr vmax is a boat tail and load without bulging to one side

like the 35gr often did whitch may have opend up the groups ? also longer and more airodynamic

so all to the good i think

 

 

HI GANDY

 

if i knew then what i know

it did improve after floating and bedding but not goodenough

for commercial pest control finding the right load was the other half of

the problem

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[Andrew]

HI ANDREW

 

did some measureing to day and the 35gr vmax will touch the lands

so i will try 10 tho back and see how they group

the 40gr vmax is a boat tail and load without bulging to one side

like the 35gr often did whitch may have opend up the groups ? also longer and more airodynamic

so all to the good i think

 

 

HI GANDY

 

if i knew then what i know

it did improve after floating and bedding but not goodenough

for commercial pest control finding the right load was the other half of

the problem

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

 

Don't bother even attempting to seat to the lands. There isn't enough pull weight (neck tension) with the 35 grain. Seat them to magazine length. My reloading room is wall papered with groups like this, using bullets seated to magazine length in the CZ Hornet. ~Andrew

[DEADFOX]

HI ANDREW

I have alterd the mag to take longer rounds so can

play around a bit for my own amusement

do you get neck bulgeing if so is it a problem

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[Andrew]

HI ANDREW

I have alterd the mag to take longer rounds so can

play around a bit for my own amusement

do you get neck bulgeing if so is it a problem

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

If by "neck bulging" you mean that bulge you get from the bullet being seated crooked in the case,the answer is "not any more" and yes, it was a problem back in the early days of my hornet shooting. Hornet necks are so thin that the neck gives instead of guides and you get that nasty off kilter bullet. I hit on using a Lee Universal Expander Die to gently flare the case neck to just accept the bullet base. (It is a very fine taper that generates the flare, possibly perfect for this application) The bullets then seat straight and true every time if the usual care is given. The Lil Gun load is a compressed load that is very forgiving. This is the smallest group I've ever fired with the V-Max and this Lil Gun load.(That's a 1" aiming square: 3 shots @ 100M )~Andrew

[DEADFOX]

HI ANDREW

 

yes thats what i ment did not give it a thought until i started loading 40gr boat tails

maybe the problem all along (you never stop lerning)i have plenty of 40gr at the moment

and use them in the 223 as well i will pick up a die and try againe when i get more time

thanks for all your input much appreciated.

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[Andrew]

HI ANDREW

 

yes thats what i ment did not give it a thought until i started loading 40gr boat tails

maybe the problem all along (you never stop lerning)i have plenty of 40gr at the moment

and use them in the 223 as well i will pick up a die and try againe when i get more time

thanks for all your input much appreciated.

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

 

I'm happy you're getting good service now from your Hornet. I've shot Hornet for decades and am convinced that the CZ is, generally, the most accurate of them all. I have close contact with three of these rifles, each of a different "vintage" and they all drive tacks with this load combo. We could interchange ammo from one gun to the next and get identical accuracy... you can't say that for many rifles.~Andrew

[no bull]

I love my Hornet I pillar bedded it into a Richards thumb hole stock from the USA and had a tactical bolt knob fitted, as for shooting it will produce sub 1/4" groups all day long if i do my bit .

 

I use 12.9gn Lilgun behind a 35gn V Max.

 

 

[6.5shooter]

Thats a sweet rifle 'no bull'

 

Garry

[DEADFOX]

HI NO BULL

 

for me the hornet is more a noise and range thing for working on smaller golf corses

when i canot use 223 Rem 700 vssf witch has a richards tack driver t/h stock p bed and float + pm2 3/12/50 mill dot illuminated

scope.

at the moment it has a standard stock 6/24x56 illuminaited nikko stirling night eater and t4 mod

when i get time i will upgrade tack driver t/h and s&b 2 1/2 10x56 clasic.

 

your rifle looks the nuts did you fit and finish the stock your self

i have fitted two richards t/h stocks to my rifles 223 22/250 both Rem 700 vssf i have piller bedded and floated all my rifles

six in all what a job.

 

 

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[DEADFOX]

HI NO BULL

 

ment to say was it the 90% fitted and finish your self or the 100%fitted and finished when you got it

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

[no bull]

HI NO BULL

 

ment to say was it the 90% fitted and finish your self or the 100%fitted and finished when you got it

 

HAPPY HUNTING DEADFOX

 

Hi DEADFOX, I had a lot of work to do to achive the standard it is now, the inletting was as rough as hell and i had to cut the stock length so the mod fitted. All the pillar bedding was done mysalf

 

[dannywayoflife]

Hi mate who did your tactical bolt nob?

Atb Danny

[no bull]

Hi mate who did your tactical bolt nob?

Atb Danny

 

Richard Pope, of Swift Precision Rifles.

 

ATB Nick.

[sir-slots-alot]

I love my Hornet I pillar bedded it into a Richards thumb hole stock from the USA and had a tactical bolt knob fitted, as for shooting it will produce sub 1/4" groups all day long if i do my bit .

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great looking rifle Nick.

 

Well worth the work you have put in.

 

 

ATB

Al