Bob57

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Hi Steve, yes I'm sure they'll see led or laser but it sounds like laser might not stand out quite so much, they definately notice the ir when being tracked,that's why when tracking one before the shot I often keep it just in show at bottom of screen,seems to take the ir off them just enough so they tend to not look at you as much, but yep I'm sure there'll always be the odd smarter fox, I've allways said the more technology we have to shoot them with, the smarter they'll get to avoid it!! I'm sure cubs are born lampshy now, but I suppose it's what makes it more of a challenge 😀.

Hi Martin, yeah mines an armasight ir too, that would be good to hear how you get on with the srx👍

Sounds good hornet, I have recently been thinking of buying a Solaris after reading good things about them, how does the xtl compare size/weight and what makes the xtl better?

None been missed on our farm,and I shoot a lot of ground bordering us. I've not shot any foxes on our land for month's too, just been feeding them all the pheasant/partridge etc carcases so I think he has been here stuffing his face for a quite awhile now,they do get well fed while here😀 I just think he was so used to that spot every night the ir stood out at him, or could be the local do as you likeys stiring them up!!

Interesting, I've heard that said about lasers being a bit more covert !!

Hi montey, I was out again last night and shot another 2, neither of them spooked at the ir , so it's just the odd one now and then, the thing that made me pack up was the mist, spotted the second one with the thermal no prob,but couldn't hardly see it with the drone, so yep I will buy a thermal one day, won't have to go home when the mist rolls in aswell

Nipped out for an hour before dinner tonight and got set up on a bait spot at 200yds,was watching through the thermal when Charlie steps out of the hedge and trots out to the bait, so fired up the drone, face on stock aiming at spot, turned on ir and there was the fox, just as I got on the trigger it lifted its head, and straight away looked my way and went all alert and ran a few yards, stopping to look at me head up high,all alert again. Wind was blowing from him to me, and I had a nice row of conifers behind me which I suppose he doesn't normally see the glow from an ir against, I've had quite a few foxes spook from that tiny ir glow now ,which just goes to show how alert foxes are to something slightly different on their patch, even at that range.

I was out Thursday night and it was daylight too, but still managed to spank 3 Charlie's though. .204 Ruger,39grn s/b/ks and drone on top,the best medicine for fox. Love it😀

Thanks for reminding me of that gunner, I had read it before awhile ago,but didn't stay in the old brain lol, re read and now it's made my mind up to step down twice from a .223 sized case👍

A mate has given me 235 fed once fired cases,and has a redding 223 bushing die I can borrow,which will save some pennies😀at the moment , just need to buy bushings now. So measured the outside/inside of necks, the 204 bullet + brass neck thickness and minus 3 to 4 thou which gives me a bushing size of .228 to finish with . What are you chaps doing to get them to finished size, one or two steps down from 223 sized neck, I'm thinking .238 then .228 but wondering if I'd get there ok in one go, .249 to .228 ??

Thanks for that JC👍. Anyone using vn133 with 32grn sbk's ?

Cheers for that gunner, I've not looked into the dies yet so that's good info,will order some lapua cases next week for a start👍

Nah, there'll allways be dire straits 😁

👍. Let's hope it works well for you mate.

'Tuwatt-o-meter'😂😂love it, bradders has gone quiet, hope he's not died!!

Oi, language Geoffrey 😂😂😂

Cheers gunner, looks like vn133 is a good powder for the practical, exploding magpies, my favourite 😀

My ma and pa brought me up to say please and thank you too, I can't stand people that are rude and have no manners, but unfortunately there's not many like you bradders that speak their mind and tell the offenders, so keep it up, I like your sense of humour!!when this thread started kicking off It made me smile, as i thought you were having a laugh!! Anyway you won't get me going to bisley, did it 30 odd years ago and the drive was a pig then😀. Hopefully you'll be doing the drive for many more years to come.

Thanks for that fizz, I'm hoping I can get mine shooting well with vn133, as that's what shoots good in my .204 and fireball, be nice to use one powder for all 3. That's a good speed for 24 grns with 39 sbk's and 22" tube, I've decided 23" on mine. Your rifle sounds nice, I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the pard nv008 , sounds like a good unit for the money!!

Ok cheers mate, no worries ,sounds like a good round☺.I will find my own load, with vhitavouri powder hopefully, I use 39grn sbk's in my .204 Ruger so know they do a good job on fox but as this will be a bit multi purpose i fancy getting the 32gr sbk's singing, especially for the smaller vermin.

Thanks for the replies chaps👍. Treetop, that's going well with 39 sbk's, what powder are you using and how many grains?.Have you tried 32 grn sbk's?

Cheers mark, hopefully they'll all reply 👍

As so many of you on here reckon it's a great round ,(baldie especially😋) I've decided to have the semi custom fireball i was having done , as a .20 practical now. Got the stock, hs precision thumbhole, remington action with custom bolt and Jewell trigger, T1 Sassen barrel 10 twist, all ready to be put together ☺. Just need to decide length of barrel, which bullets to use, what dies to buy, etc Like to read your thoughts/experience with this round,will be used for fur and feathered vermin. Thanks bob. Pics of stock with rosewood buttpad and action.

I'll second that?