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  1. 2 hours ago, tackb said:

    The only possible way I will bury the hatchet with Gardner’s is if they refund the money they have stolen from me 

    the op of this thread was refunded as we’re others but there is a number who for reasons known only to Gardner’s will not be refunded , there is a lot of support for a boycott of Gardner’s over this yet it is such a simple fix by Gardner’s so if detriment to the sport of shooting is to be layed at anyone’s door it is Gardner’s.

    they and they alone can fix this. 

    Totally agree that any funds paid out for a shoot that did not occur should be refunded. That is a no brainer!  That being said I still maintain that the PRL would be better and more successful with more venues across the country. I don’t know why the falling out happened but all I am saying it that it is in no ones interest for the league to fragment 

  2. Whilst I have only done 2 comps this year they were both an absolute hoot! 

    Thinking what would be best for the PRL as an ongoing uk venture would be to bury the hatchet regarding disagreements over the past year and host the comps on as many ranges in the country as possible. This may obviously require some degree of compromise to occur. Failing to do this will inevitably fragment what is already a minority sport to everyone’s detriment as competing organisations will spring up as in the USA. This may however inject market forces with regard to entrance fees. One way or another this will succeed or fail based on numbers of participants so breaking down barriers of cost, distance and time commitment  would be good starting points  

    With regard to competition format I would echo the separation of the PRL and the ELR as they are very different and both niche. Perhaps one day comps would be more accessible and the same comp could be run on two consecutive days as many clay shoots are. 

    Some other suggestion would be to incorporate some long barrel 22 LR pistol and close range 22 semi auto stages for shits and giggles. These may need guns/ammo to be provided but sponsors may be prepared to help 

     

  3. On 9/12/2019 at 8:59 AM, Ronin said:

    Well now there are several types of Precision Rifle Shooting competition in the UK let’s hope the sport grows to become bigger and better

    Diggle ranges are running their own competition series as are Gardner’s at Eskdalemuir and with next years Precision Rifle League promising to be “bigger and better” with more venues there’s a plethora of competitions to enter or attend just to practice   

     

    On that note, I hope the costs to enter don't get prohibitive.

     

    Talking to a fellow entrant of the last of the PRL events they said that it was over nearly 300 quid to enter the Comp and practice Friday with ammunition cost at 150 and accommodation another 150 for two nights in local place that becomes a very expensive weekends shooting when compared to even F class who’s entry fee at Bisley for two days is only 150 and a practice half day being 20 (bearing in mind that’s including paying for two human markers per target)

     

    Diggle Comp entry fees stand at no more than 50 per Comp for non members (less for members) and the new set of comps at Eskdalemuir are 60 which appears good value to me

    No one shooting competitively can argue it’s a cheap sport but it becomes prohibitive when entry fees are so high for unknown reasons, after all the targetry is already on site.....

     

    Moving back to the original thread (sorry) I don’t see the argument against long action as the bolt retraction is exactly the same as a short action. Closing the bolt requires the longer throw (3/4” longer)

    Yep, mags are larger but again 3/4” longer, so not by a huge amount.

    I think the guys Precision Rifle Shooting in the US have advantage of different climate and perhaps drier conditions where fall of shot / splash can be seen with the 6mm bullets - you don’t see many 6mm used in Scandinavian events  from reading several reports it’s predominantly 6.5/7mm that is used 

    Given the changeable conditions in the UK I believe 6.5 / 7mm is the better option 

     

      

     

    There is the real risk of pricing out at those levels. Cash cows can only be milked for so long and ultimately the success of the sport in the UK will be the victim. If prices are more reasonable then hopefully more will attend

    The send it shoot at Eskdalemuir was a much more reasonable £60 including lunch. 

    i too felt my shooting was the weak link rather than equipment but I just shot a semi custom Rem 700 in 6.5x47 with 123 Scenars 

  4. 1 hour ago, Ronin said:

    I believe this rifle won a Comp (Send it Series) at Eskdalemuir at the weekend 

    Certainly not inaccurate and worth every penny of the asking price 

    It was the very same rifle and was ringing the 1000 yard gong regularly despite the 10-20 mph wind! 😀 

    just to clarify the barreled action is still for sale at £375 for the barreled action and rem trigger but not the pic rail

  5. A great day out Marc! Thanks once again for all your teams efforts. The shoot really was a great way to introduce people to PRL shooting. As an example for others, we had Jonathan on our detail  who I don’t think had shot PRL style before. Armed with a factory 308 with single 3 round mag, he stuck to and single fed his remaining rounds to complete every stage. I think it is fair to say he had a bit of a slow start due to inadequate drop data but once we got that sorted within the squad he was whacking the plates regularly and ended up with a good score and a bigger smile. The 22 class also looked good fun and I may even have a go at that myself next time. It was possible to shoot both comps on the same detail!  It just goes to show that you don’t need much gear to take part. For those who have not experienced Eskdalemuir, all I can say is that it is well worth the trip!! 

    Many thanks once again

     

  6. Just a quick shout out for the Applied ballistics iphone app. I have been running the app for about 6 months now and have got it quite refined for a few of my regularly used loads. We took it up to Eskdalemuir for the Send it shoot last Saturday and was very impressed with the accuracy of the predictions out to 1000+ yards despite the 10-20 mph wind. We were using 123 Scenars out of 6.5x47s so not exactly the most wind resistant bullet in the world.  I dont think I had to correct more than 0.2 mRad from the apps predictions all day.  I am using the doppler derived custom drag curves for the scenar rather than the G1 or G7 BCs. The custom drag data costs a couple of pounds extra but all in all it is the best £20-30 (for the app and drag data) I have spent....very impressed!

  7. Ok so picture time.....

    I have decided that I will also sell the stock as I have sourced an alternative

    McMillan A5 adjustable in olive green, black, grey marble

    has been pillar/devcon bedded £450 ono - first dibs given to those who may want the barreled action as well - £850 for the whole rifle as is

    Anschutz rail in the foreend with QD stud , Flush cups on left side of stock and foreend for biathlon sling mounting

    Atlasworx bottom metal for AICS mags - 

    No mags included, neither is the scope /rings...obviously

     

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  8. Morning guys

    Well I am selling my trusty 6.5x47 Remington 700 barreled action, as I have been maliciously lured towards a Borden Alpine that (in my mind) I now absolutely need more than oxygen!! 

    The action is a Remington 700 with C prefix which were the good ones before the accountants took control. It was bought from new by me as a 308 and has been trued by Ronin (who is excellent by the way) when the barrel and heavy recoil lug were fitted. It currently wears an adjustable McM A5 stock and Atlasworks floorplate that I will keep unless a tempting offer comes in (See post below, whole lot now for sale). The bolt handle currently wears a big rubber knob that can be removed if desired.

    The barrel is a 26 inch Bartlein Stainless fluted in M40 contour 1 in 8.25 in twist, that is match crowned and threaded 18x1 and has had between 1800-2000 rounds through it. For those of you who dont know of Bartlein, they are the best of the best cut rifled barrels. These have all been moderate loads of 36 ish grains of Varget with a 123 bullet so certainly not hot rodded (a lot of people are using 38g Varget with this bullet).  Whilst the barrel is not new it will still shoot groups between 0.5 and 0.75MOA so it is by no means shot out. The 6.5x47 cartridge is generally thought to have quite good barrel life of 3000-4000 rounds. It will come with a Remington trigger as I am keeping the CG Millenium that is on there. All you need to do is add a stock and bottom metal or chassis of your choice and you will have a cracking outfit. The action will be lodged with Ronin on or before 18 September.

    I am looking for £400 for the barreled action and trigger or £850 for the whole rifle  + RFD. I will consider offers so long as they are vaguely sensible.

    Pictures will follow (probably this evening)

     

  9. The main determinant would have to be meeting the legal requirements for deer. Consequently this could vary depending on species so if muntjac/cwd are the only deer in the menu then a 222/223 or 22/250 may work well. If roe or larger are around then 243 or a 6.5 would be good. Incidentally it would be a bad idea to use a CF rifle for lame sheep in almost every circumstance if a shotgun were available

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