Posting powder via hazardous goods carrier

[shooter83]

Does anyone know if an individual can post powder via hazardous goods through a carrier?

 

Thank you for your help

[Catch-22]

Yes you can, but it usually costs a fair bit.

I used to have shotgun cartridges sent in bulk via the post. Generally only work out if doing in bulk. But some sellers don’t want to deal with the hassle so won’t offer it as an option.

[Catch-22]

Here’s a U.K. courier. Flat rate is £60 Inc vat for dangerous goods.

https://www.dgparcel.com/uk-flat-rate-pricing

[kwakkerjack]

I know people that have both received and sent powder through the standard postal carriers without issue.  After all, standard powders are classed as "propellant" rather than "explosive" and are in themselves unlicensed.

 

Black Powder or Triple7 would be a bit risky though.

[shooter83]

Thank you all kindly for your input. Much appreciated 

[John_fes]

On 4/19/2023 at 4:43 PM, kwakkerjack said:

I know people that have both received and sent powder through the standard postal carriers without issue.  After all, standard powders are classed as "propellant" rather than "explosive" and are in themselves unlicensed.

 

Black Powder or Triple7 would be a bit risky though.

Sending powder, propellant via standard postal carrier is a really stupid idea if against the carriers terms and conditions, which it is for all but a very few specialists hazardous goods carriers.

It potentially puts at risk individuals in the delivery process and could result in further restrictions on ownership if some incident occurred, and likely cost the sender their firearms certificates.

standard powders are classed as 1.3c UN161 hence are classified as explosives their is no such “classed as propellant” 

ownership of powders is licensed, but as a owner of an FAC, SGC, RFD then explosive regulations 2014 (ER2014) includes an exemption from requiring a licence to acquire and keep, (unlike black powder) a limited amount of net explosive quantity, which includes all powder in ammunition, cartridges or lose powder. Above the exemption limit you then need a licence.
Sellers of powder must see your certificate to purchase and record details as per ER2014

For details read the HSE explosive regulations.

ignorance of the law is no excuse in the eyes of the law.

edit to add, explosives are classified together with their packaging, typically cardboard box which will have a 4G code on the box, confirming the box has been tested as suitable to transport the explosive.

so it can only be transported in this  original packaging. 

[Popsbengo]

9 hours ago, John_fes said:

Sending powder, propellant via standard postal carrier is a really stupid idea if against the carriers terms and conditions, which it is for all but a very few specialists hazardous goods carriers.

It potentially puts at risk individuals in the delivery process and could result in further restrictions on ownership if some incident occurred, and likely cost the sender their firearms certificates.

standard powders are classed as 1.3c UN161 hence are classified as explosives their is no such “classed as propellant” 

ownership of powders is licensed, but as a owner of an FAC, SGC, RFD then explosive regulations 2014 (ER2014) includes an exemption from requiring a licence to acquire and keep, (unlike black powder) a limited amount of net explosive quantity, which includes all powder in ammunition, cartridges or lose powder. Above the exemption limit you then need a licence.
Sellers of powder must see your certificate to purchase and record details as per ER2014

For details read the HSE explosive regulations.

ignorance of the law is no excuse in the eyes of the law.

edit to add, explosives are classified together with their packaging, typically cardboard box which will have a 4G code on the box, confirming the box has been tested as suitable to transport the explosive.

so it can only be transported in this  original packaging. 

well said

[kwakkerjack]

I love the smell of "triggered" gun-control activitists in the morning.

 

Member on this forum for 6 years and only 5 visible posts, 3 of which are about government regulations (and only 2 posts made, up until a couple of days ago).  {I know, Ad Hominem argument}

[Popsbengo]

7 hours ago, kwakkerjack said:

I love the smell of "triggered" gun-control activitists in the morning.

Member on this forum for 6 years and only 5 visible posts, 3 of which are about government regulations (and only 2 posts made, up until a couple of days ago).  {I know, Ad Hominem argument}

That's a pretty dickish thing to write.  Your "advice" to post powder unlawfully is just plane stupid and you're called out on it -reasonably in my opinion