Alycidon Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 This material, a composite of Carbon Fibre and Aircraft grade Aluminium looks like an ideal material for a lighter weight moderator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glare_(material) 30% lighter than Ali and stronger but with better heat resistance, Airbus are using it as a skin material on the A380 http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRheft/FRH0301/FR0301a.htm Is anybody aware of any moderator manufacturers looking at this material?. It would solve part of the weight/balance issue. I do wonder about flame cutting though on baffles. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemasis243 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I am helping a guy at this moment in time who has just developed a Titainium sound Moderator, it will reduse noise and recoil against any other on the market. At the moment the Patent for the system is being sorted ,but will give you a full run down on the tests I have done when its all complete. I will say this its very impressive, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middlestead Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I am helping a guy at this moment in time who has just developed a Titainium sound Moderator.......... The Yank's already have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 whats the cost looking like for this ti can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Titanium is nothing new. The cost has always been prohibitive. There is a mental block in the uk with moderators, and i,ll tell you what it is.......MONEY. .£200 mods sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 titanium mods have been made in the UK,and they are not that light,and the price was to high. i have had the pleasure of handling one and shooting one.but i will not be rushing out to get one.the type i used was nothing to shout about, And as Dave says you will never sell large amounts of mods if you don't keep the price down to £200. ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemasis243 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I can only tell you of what I have shot against others, but ,were as a Relflex will rot out and you spend other £180 buying another this will last a life time . But its up to the individual ,I know my thoughts on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I can only tell you of what I have shot against others, but ,were as a Relflex will rot out and you spend other £180 buying another this will last a life time .But its up to the individual ,I know my thoughts on the matter hi nem if you send a reflex back to jackson's they give you one for 60% of the new price.i think that's about £120 it will be interesting to see / hear about this new mod,i was not trying to put yours down,just letting you know what we found. cost will all ways come in to it if you are trying to shift large numbers of items. ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middlestead Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 The "desposable" Reflex is the dearest mod on the market, for what it is......... It costs you $200 in the US just for the licence to own a mod, food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemasis243 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 hi nem if you send a reflex back to jackson's they give you one for 60% of the new price.i think that's about £120 it will be interesting to see / hear about this new mod,i was not trying to put yours down,just letting you know what we found. cost will all ways come in to it if you are trying to shift large numbers of items. ATB Colin Without saying to much ,the MOD are very very interested in the product for use in certain enviroments, if they get involved there may be a chance it might not even get to the public, or if it does it would be in controlled numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ppc Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Without saying to much ,the MOD are very very interested in the product for use in certain enviroments, if they get involved there may be a chance it might not even get to the public, or if it does it would be in controlled numbers. Is this new MOD a muzzle can or an over barrel design? Cheers, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambi-basher Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 As Dave says now’t special about a Titanium moderator, I have built one myself, and the Yanks have had them for sometime. nemasis243 I am not sure what your mate is going to patent as Henry Maxim had the first patent on a moderator over 100 years ago. Since then just about every different type of baffle design must have been tried some were by somebody. If he thinks building his own moddy out of Titanium with his own fancy baffle design will earn him a patent then I am afraid he might be disappointed, however if he has come up with a truly revolutionary design that nobody else in the world has then well done to him. In the US/Europe and Australasia there are a lot of companies building and developing moderators for the military and sporting use, spending together millions on research. Best rgds B-b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerman Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Check out www.qsmsilencers.co.uk They are already manufacturing their titanium moderators in the UK and have a huge following in the US. These are tried and tested and nothing like we have seen here before. At 360 grams for a .308 can it is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Tried looking at that qsm website and I can't access anything. All it does is direct me onto a login box requesting username and password? Anybody else get this ? and how did you get access eventually or is it all top secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerman Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Site was down for a couple of hours earlier today. Back up and running now. Tried looking at that qsm website and I can't access anything. All it does is direct me onto a login box requesting username and password?Anybody else get this ? and how did you get access eventually or is it all top secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager SA Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 You will gain very little if anything at all from a Titanium moderator. The use of this material in this application is a bit of waste, when you compare it to AA 7075 the Titanium will be heavier. Not only that the cost will be huge because its not cheap and the waste involved in machining massive! Are we trying to reinvent the wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Titainium is not that good a material for a mod as it does not handle thermal shock very well, High temp operation yes, cyclic themal loading no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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