dazzer Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 so I have bought the Yukon 6.5x50 and have bore sighted it 25m and the adjustment for the elevation is nearly at max any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker dave Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 so I have bought the Yukon 6.5x50 and have bore sighted it 25m and the adjustment for the elevation is nearly at max any thoughtsHi dazzler, unfortunately it is a know problem with the photon.Either buy some sportsmatch adjustable mounts or do as I did and get some old negative film and shim the mount,I put 4 pieces under the back mount and hey presto!Good luck dave Ps dusted mine off this weekend and shot a fox at 150m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi dazzler, unfortunately it is a know problem with the photon.Either buy some sportsmatch adjustable mounts or do as I did and get some old negative film and shim the mount,I put 4 pieces under the back mount and hey presto! Good luck dave Ps dusted mine off this weekend and shot a fox at 150m. thanks dave for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 There's a way to zero the photon without using adjustable mounts or shimming mounts. This should be done with the scope already mounted on the rifle and the reticle in the X=0 and Y=0 position Where the 30mm scope tube attaches to the front, main part of the scope which contains the sensor and the objective lens, you'll see two semi circular clamps (one of which is marked YUKON) Each clamp has two socket head cap screws and the heads of these screws are filled with rubbery gunk. Us a fine pointed tool to remove the rubbery gunk and then use an allen key to loosen the 4 clamp screws. When the screws are loose, grip the front main part and give it a bit of a twist to break the seal between it and the 30mm tube. Now you can wiggle the front part of the scope around so that the sensor is pointing to your POI. It will take a little fiddling to get it lined up correctly and you'll need to fire a few shots along the way to see how close you're getting but at the end of the process it will be as close to perfect as you want. Obviously you need to retighten the 4 screws and check that the POI hasn't shifted. Cheers Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 AND IF ITS NEW SAY GOODBY TO YOUR 3 YEAR WARRANTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 There's a way to zero the photon without using adjustable mounts or shimming mounts. This should be done with the scope already mounted on the rifle and the reticle in the X=0 and Y=0 position Where the 30mm scope tube attaches to the front, main part of the scope which contains the sensor and the objective lens, you'll see two semi circular clamps (one of which is marked YUKON) Each clamp has two socket head cap screws and the heads of these screws are filled with rubbery gunk. Us a fine pointed tool to remove the rubbery gunk and then use an allen key to loosen the 4 clamp screws. When the screws are loose, grip the front main part and give it a bit of a twist to break the seal between it and the 30mm tube. Now you can wiggle the front part of the scope around so that the sensor is pointing to your POI. It will take a little fiddling to get it lined up correctly and you'll need to fire a few shots along the way to see how close you're getting but at the end of the process it will be as close to perfect as you want. Obviously you need to retighten the 4 screws and check that the POI hasn't shifted. Cheers Bruceh thanks for the info however as I have just bought the unit think ill try the film shims 1st then buy some adj mounts if that doesn,t work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ergid Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 so I have bought the Yukon 6.5x50 and have bore sighted it 25m and the adjustment for the elevation is nearly at max any thoughts I had the same problem , there are 2 types of adjustable sportmatch mounts ,one that only adjust the height and the other is fully adjustable. If you buy the mounts ,you only need to make small screw adjustments at a time . Have you got a doubler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillair1 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I would say if its that far out, send it back under warranty as not fit for use and get TJ's to sort it out. Would you be happy with a £400 day scope that was at its limits to get a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetop Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I take it that it's POI is low ? If so, shim the rear ring , I use insulating tape, about 4 layers on the bottom of the ring .. This has put both mine bang on - in fact one is on 'O' the other on ' -2' at 85 yards Scope height will effect it, as will your chosen zero distance, For both mine ( .223 & 17 Hornet ) I like a 85 yard zero, as my units are 3" bore to bore = this gives me flat shooting ( 0.5" ) out to 185 yards and only - 0.5 " at 200 yards I don't use adjustable mounts as I find I don't get the desired eye relief .. I prefer to use QD 1 peace ' lean back ' mounts on weaver rails, so I can swap out to glass if I wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted September 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Hi guys I've sorted this problem by fitting 4 pieces of 35mm film now the sight pic is centre for a 50yard zero I take it that it's POI is low ? If so, shim the rear ring , I use insulating tape, about 4 layers on the bottom of the ring .. This has put both mine bang on - in fact one is on 'O' the other on ' -2' at 85 yards Scope height will effect it, as will your chosen zero distance, For both mine ( .223 & 17 Hornet ) I like a 85 yard zero, as my units are 3" bore to bore = this gives me flat shooting ( 0.5" ) out to 185 yards and only - 0.5 " at 200 yards I don't use adjustable mounts as I find I don't get the desired eye relief .. I prefer to use QD 1 peace ' lean back ' mounts on weaver rails, so I can swap out to glass if I wish I take it that it's POI is low ? If so, shim the rear ring , I use insulating tape, about 4 layers on the bottom of the ring .. This has put both mine bang on - in fact one is on 'O' the other on ' -2' at 85 yards hi Scope height will effect it, as will your chosen zero distance, For both mine ( .223 & 17 Hornet ) I like a 85 yard zero, as my units are 3" bore to bore = this gives me flat shooting ( 0.5" ) out to 185 yards and only - 0.5 " at 200 yards I don't use adjustable mounts as I find I don't get the desired eye relief .. I prefer to use QD 1 peace ' lean back ' mounts on weaver rails, so I can swap out to glass if I wish I take it that it's POI is low ? If so, shim the rear ring , I use insulating tape, about 4 layers on the bottom of the ring .. This has put both mine bang on - in fact one is on 'O' the other on ' -2' at 85 yards Scope height will effect it, as will your chosen zero distance, For both mine ( .223 & 17 Hornet ) I like a 85 yard zero, as my units are 3" bore to bore = this gives me flat shooting ( 0.5" ) out to 185 yards and only - 0.5 " at 200 yards I don't use adjustable mounts as I find I don't get the desired eye relief .. I prefer to use QD 1 peace ' lean back ' mounts on weaver rails, so I can swap out to glass if I wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp_Shy Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Hello folks, new on here and noticed this post, so thought I'd offer my experience on this issue. The Photon obviously has an issue with insufficient elevation adjustment, which gets worse the higher the mounts are. I solved this by converting to a Picatinny rail and dedicated Photon mono mount made by Yukon. Even then it's up around the 20 clicks mark (max is 30), which isn't ideal, because the cross hairs stay where you adjust them ie for me it's low and right. I use this mounting method so I can swap back and forward between the Photon and my Docter day scope for stalking. Incidentally I use a NM800 with adjustable mount, which for foxing is well beyond what I need for shooting. I'm seeing eye shine way out beyond 600m. At sub 200m, it's a cracking picture. Hope this inaugural post helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker dave Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Welcome lamp shy,I think the photon is tremendous bang for your buck,I also use an nm 800 and can see a lot further than I'm comfortable shooting.I have mine on a tikka with rail so can switch between day scope and nv. Still smile watching foxes at a couple 9f hundred meters. Atb dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp_Shy Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Welcome lamp shy,I think the photon is tremendous bang for your buck,I also use an nm 800 and can see a lot further than I'm comfortable shooting.I have mine on a tikka with rail so can switch between day scope and nv. Still smile watching foxes at a couple 9f hundred meters. Atb dave Same Dave, I've an M595 Tikka with a rail from Tier one, which keeps it nice and low. The range with the NM800 is unbelievable. I've also aquired a Bushnell Equinox with a TR50 IR. It's good for scanning but no where near the Photon Nm800 combo. Incidentally, nightmaster uk has a deal on the package just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetop Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I went with the T67 mk2 , only because : the price& the pedigree, I've had T20's . t38, T50 and T67 .. I was watching a fox at 800 yards the other night, called it right in to 150yrds .. I always remove the little inner cap ( pin hole ) from the lens cap, as it improves the picture 10 fold . I never got the official mount, I use a QD lean back 1 peice weaver mount, so it's easy on/ off & doesn't loose that much zero - 1 maybe 2 shots to check .. I prefer having my scopes at 3" bore to bore , so I get flatter shooting , but have never found shimming a problem , it's so easy to do & with practice you can almost get it bang on X- 0 Y - 0 , Add a green filter to the eye peice & away you go .. The photon is a very under rated NV scope - it's a great tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp_Shy Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I went with the T67 mk2 , only because : the price& the pedigree, I've had T20's . t38, T50 and T67 .. I was watching a fox at 800 yards the other night, called it right in to 150yrds .. I always remove the little inner cap ( pin hole ) from the lens cap, as it improves the picture 10 fold . I never got the official mount, I use a QD lean back 1 peice weaver mount, so it's easy on/ off & doesn't loose that much zero - 1 maybe 2 shots to check .. I prefer having my scopes at 3" bore to bore , so I get flatter shooting , but have never found shimming a problem , it's so easy to do & with practice you can almost get it bang on X- 0 Y - 0 , Add a green filter to the eye peice & away you go .. The photon is a very under rated NV scope - it's a great tool Pic of my mounts etc. Sounds like you've a similar set up. I tried Leopold QR rings & mounts, but the Photon was too far forward, hence the change to Picatinny and dedicated mount Do you leave the front cap on at night (with the plug pushed out)? I've just took the cap off completely at night, but still messing with set ups. Incidentally, I only got the NM due to the half price offer, the TR50 on the hand held is great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Pic of my mounts etc. Sounds like you've a similar set up. I tried Leopold QR rings & mounts, but the Photon was too far forward, hence the change to Picatinny and dedicated mount Do you leave the front cap on at night (with the plug pushed out)? I've just took the cap off completely at night, but still messing with set ups. Incidentally, I only got the NM due to the half price offer, the TR50 on the hand held is great too. sweet set up its all new to me this nv shooting but at least im on target with it the next thing to sort is the ir the one that came with the package deal will not line up to the center of the nv unit as there is no adjustment on the lamp mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker dave Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Pic of my mounts etc. Sounds like you've a similar set up. I tried Leopold QR rings & mounts, but the Photon was too far forward, hence the change to Picatinny and dedicated mount Do you leave the front cap on at night (with the plug pushed out)? I've just took the cap off completely at night, but still messing with set ups. Incidentally, I only got the NM due to the half price offer, the TR50 on the hand held is great too. push the little cap out the middle.look up ant supplies for an adjustable torch mount then get a small weaver rail off evil bay for a few quid. Atb dave Ps skanny on here does a few ir torches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetop Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hi, Yeah, leave cap on & push middle out .. My IR torch is mounted off a weaver rail on the tube, so it sits above the battery cover, on an adjustable mount .. I found the balance better there, & easier to carry the rifle . The only mod I have insist on having done is a green filter gel on the eye screen .. As it was giving me a headache & killing my eyes natural NV - you won't go back !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 push the little cap out the middle. look up ant supplies for an adjustable torch mount then get a small weaver rail off evil bay for a few quid. Atb dave Ps skanny on here does a few ir torches! why do I need a weaver rail as well there one already fiited on the unit ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 why do I need a weaver rail as well there one already fiited on the unit ?????? Coz the weaver rail on the unit is crap It's a plastic low profile single slot and most weaver base rings won't fit onto it. Cheers Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillair1 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 A Hawke Weaver mount fits the side rail on the photon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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