Piller bedding

[Scotch_egg]

I have just ordered a new fore end for my T/C encore and would like it pillar bedding, I am no rifle smith so doing it myself is out. Where can I get it done and how much should I expect to pay?

 

cheers

 

Dave

[Ronin]

You can pay bettween £200 to £395 for a full job if you look at services provided by various gunsmiths in the UK (from their own web pages)

 

It would probably be less if your'e looking at just the forend, but I for one am unsure if you would get any benefit from having this done in this type of weapon as the action and stock behave differently to a traditional fitting rifle action.

 

I am sure you could contact one of the advertisers here and they would give you a quote and you would get an excellent job.

 

 

Now the attempt at humour

 

 

Looking at your avatar, you live very close to one of the UK's leading experts on pillar bedding (FBSoG)

 

I am positive that person will be able to tell you exactly how to do it.........and have an argument (sorry - point you in the right direction) with you when and if you get it wrong

[Scotch_egg]

If any one will do it for free then I'm more than happy to accept the offer......

 

 

What i'm after is pillars to alleviate stress along the barrel channel, on this rifle there is no free floating along the channel and the only way is to pop in some pillars as the only contact point between fore end barrel.

 

I will not pay the prices quoted by Ronin they are for people on a better wage than me!!!!!

 

cheers for the comedy double act by the way, I do enjoy the show hehe...........

 

one kind member has been in contact by pm, i'll surely let folks know of the accuracy ofthe rifle whatever I do. I love my little single shot, its nice an cheap.

 

Dave

[Ronin]

Touche Funky

 

 

Now Scotch Egg

 

 

As I recall the Thomson Centre has separate butt and forend that are attached to the action and barrel - very similar to a Ruger #1, but the TC breaks like a shotgun?

 

Ive seen Ruger #1's that have had alterations done to get them shooting better but......

 

 

I cannot see what benefit (accuracy gain) you would get from bedding the forend of the TC.

 

The action and barrel look after themselves and the forend hangs from then (the forend does not offer any support for the action or barrel its just cosmetic)

 

If it is a poor fit, this would be a warranty issue (if its new)

 

 

I personally would save your money and just enjoy the rifle.

 

 

Remember - no such thing as a free lunch, despite what people try to tell you

[Scotch_egg]

There are many websites that specialise in the improvemtn of the encore and the contender and most if not all recommend a pillar bed to relive the stress caused by constant barrel and stock contact. I'm fitting an after market stock so there is no warrenty issue.

 

cheers Ronin,

[Ronin]

I understand what you are trying to achieve, but the barrel will still be in contact with the forend so affected by the pillars or wood to metal contact anyway.

 

Ok, addition of pillars would reduce the interface bettween the forend and barrel harmonics, but that contact is still present and that will continue to impede accuracy.

 

 

Is there reference to the amount of benefit addition of pillars makes on the TC sites i.e. (reducing from 2inch to 1 inch would be a real gain), but if only half inch gain is it worth it?

 

If there was some way of free flaoting the TC barrel completely, that would make em shoot

[Vermincinerator]

Egg,

This looks to me like a specialised area which unless undertaken by someone who knows what they are doing or correctly understands the principles behind this technique, could result in a gun shooting worse then what it originally did.

Are there any TC specialists here in britain? Unless you can find one you may have to use your TC as is.

 

Ian.

[casts_by_fly]

the point of putting pillars (or even full length bedding if you are using one forearm per barrel) is to have consistent contact with the barrel that is minimized as much as possible. TC's are known for varying their point of impact depending on how you hold/rest them. The most consistent place to rest one that I've seen people agree with is to put your front bag just in front of the hinge pin. Some forends will touch for their entire length, some won't. Most common than pillar bedding is using a hangar bar. You have to cut a channel in the forend between and slightly past the screwholes into which you add a hangar bar which is slightly thicker top to bottom than the channel. Then the wood is only ever touching the bar and never the barrel.

 

In my case, my encore shoots really well without pillars or bedding. I haven't felt a need to bed it yet but I haven't started doing any load development.

 

thanks

rick