foxyloxy Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hi folks. I just collected my new to me 260 Ackley last weekend & I need to look about a new powder. the previous owner had a pet load of 48 grains of RL19 under a 140gr Amax. First impressions are its a damn accurate recipe. Problem is it looks like RL19 is about as obtainable as unicorn tears. Can anyone suggest a suitable more readily available replacement please? A lot of dealers over here are talking about Vectan. Thanks in advance. FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephentri Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hi folks. I just collected my new to me 260 Ackley last weekend & I need to look about a new powder. the previous owner had a pet load of 48 grains of RL19 under a 140gr Amax. First impressions are its a damn accurate recipe. Problem is it looks like RL19 is about as obtainable as unicorn tears. Can anyone suggest a suitable more readily available replacement please? A lot of dealers over here are talking about Vectan. Thanks in advance. FL Hi I was told the same that vectan powder would be available in N.ireland as it was declassified I was going to give it a go but there's very little data on loads for it, I posted on here about it and it looks like nobody uses it I was lucky enough to pick up 2 tubs of v140 last week so won't be giving vectan a go in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyloxy Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 No suggestions as to what might be a good replacement ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ramshot hunter may be worth a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106uk Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 N550 or AA4350 has the same burn rate, for Vectan powders RL19 sits between Tubal 5000 (slightly faster, same as Reloader 17) and SP11 (slightly slower). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzar15 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 Vectan Sp10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephentri Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 hi looks like vectan sp 11 would work on this is for a 260 rem not 260 ackley Cartridge : .260 Rem Bullet : .264, 140, Hornady A-MAX 26332 Useable Case Capaci: 45.582 grain H2O = 2.960 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 165 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 92%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- ReloadSwiss RS 60 96.9 42.7 2.77 2858 100.0 59000 9638 1.193 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 70 99.7 44.6 2.89 2855 100.0 59000 10130 1.192 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 95.9 42.3 2.74 2837 100.0 59000 9576 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 95.9 42.3 2.74 2837 100.0 59000 9576 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 97.3 43.6 2.82 2805 99.7 59000 9842 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 62 98.0 43.2 2.80 2803 100.0 59000 9524 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 94.9 42.2 2.73 2796 99.2 59000 9809 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 94.9 42.2 2.73 2796 99.2 59000 9809 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 100.0 43.4 2.81 2788 99.6 57937 9795 1.220 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 97.1 41.7 2.70 2784 100.0 59000 9535 1.223 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 100.0 41.6 2.69 2783 100.0 58945 9411 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.0 41.6 2.69 2782 100.0 58889 9407 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 99.4 41.8 2.71 2782 100.0 59000 9390 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 99.5 43.2 2.80 2774 97.8 59000 9768 1.208 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 93.3 40.5 2.62 2762 100.0 59000 9032 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 52 92.3 40.0 2.59 2759 100.0 59000 8961 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.0 42.7 2.76 2747 99.0 58393 9438 1.227 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 100.0 41.8 2.71 2739 100.0 53643 9034 1.264 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 99.4 41.3 2.68 2738 99.3 59000 9290 1.233 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 92.1 39.5 2.56 2736 100.0 59000 9050 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 100.0 41.8 2.71 2731 98.8 58745 9213 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 92.5 39.3 2.55 2731 100.0 59000 8703 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 92.5 39.3 2.55 2731 100.0 59000 8703 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 94.0 39.8 2.58 2728 99.4 59000 8986 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 94.6 39.3 2.55 2726 100.0 59000 8627 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 92.6 38.3 2.48 2724 100.0 59000 8577 1.215 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 94.6 38.9 2.52 2720 100.0 59000 8633 1.237 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 98.1 40.3 2.61 2716 99.7 59000 8952 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 96.8 39.9 2.59 2714 98.8 59000 9093 1.229 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 96.8 39.9 2.59 2714 98.8 59000 9093 1.229 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 93.8 40.0 2.59 2713 98.8 59000 9087 1.230 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 95.6 39.9 2.59 2708 99.7 59000 8768 1.218 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 93.0 37.9 2.46 2707 100.0 59000 8591 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 93.3 37.9 2.46 2707 100.0 59000 8591 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 100.0 42.0 2.72 2699 96.9 53923 9543 1.257 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 100.0 42.0 2.72 2699 96.9 53923 9543 1.257 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 93.9 37.3 2.41 2698 100.0 59000 8409 1.226 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 92.0 37.8 2.45 2690 100.0 59000 8132 1.267 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 100.0 41.1 2.66 2684 98.3 55479 9098 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106uk Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 SP10 is maybe too fast, it's a bit faster than N130 and the same as Reloader 10X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyloxy Posted May 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 That's great folks. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephentri Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 That's great folks. Thanks for your help.[/quote No problem let us know how you get on with the vectan powder if you use it Thanks Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyloxy Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Back again peeps. Rather that starting a new thread, I thought I would carry on with this one. I was chasing my tail, trying to get a replacement powder that was in stock locally. I eventually got my hands on Viht N160. No doubt some will say Id have been better with this powder or that powder, but It was the closest powder burn rate to the Reloader19 that I could find. Now trying to find load data for N160 and 140 grain Amax in a 260 Ackley is another issue. The Lyman manual suggests a max load in the standard rem260 chamber as 41.5 gr of 160. I read somewhere that for the Ackleyised version I could start with that and slowly work up. What would be the general consensus on this? All help appreciated folks. Many thanks. FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Back again peeps. Rather that starting a new thread, I thought I would carry on with this one. I was chasing my tail, trying to get a replacement powder that was in stock locally. I eventually got my hands on Viht N160. No doubt some will say Id have been better with this powder or that powder, but It was the closest powder burn rate to the Reloader19 that I could find. Now trying to find load data for N160 and 140 grain Amax in a 260 Ackley is another issue. The Lyman manual suggests a max load in the standard rem260 chamber as 41.5 gr of 160. I read somewhere that for the Ackleyised version I could start with that and slowly work up. What would be the general consensus on this? All help appreciated folks. Many thanks. FL The advice I had on the 243 Ackley was similar. Start close to the top end of the std round and work carefully up. N160 and N165 have both worked well in my std 260 Rems. The following forum might be a good place to post a question or two re the 260 Ackley - http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?board=7.0 Regards JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyloxy Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Thanks JCS, Ill get signed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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