dwight Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hi there. I need a tool that can level my crosshairs with my rifle.I read about such a device some time ago. Can anybody out there point me in the right direction and were i can get one.. Many thanks Dwighet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Pm me Dwight. If you're in the UK i'm happy to lend you mine... Grant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest varmartin Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I would lend him mine, but they are attached to my face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dwight, Hang a plumb line from a near-by tree and making sure your rifle is level, adjust the vertical part of the retical with the plumb line. Spot on every time Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Dwight,Hang a plumb line from a near-by tree and making sure your rifle is level, adjust the vertical part of the retical with the plumb line. Spot on every time Ian. Thats what i`ll do..Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 are you dialing or holding over????? there is a diference and one will not work right for the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 are you dialing or holding over????? there is a diference and one will not work right for the other ?????? Wont a level retical work with both hold over and dialling in then?? Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 no most manufacturer's have upto 3 degree allowance on reticle run out ie most are pissed inc leupolds dont sound a lot but say you level with plumb line and dial ,,,,,then the more you dial for greater ranges the more you dial off and 3 deg is a that which promotes growth and vigour load at long range now if you plumb the scope according to the turret or underside of turret's flat base (under side of scope) and hold off or over then chances are you will be holding the gun canted and miss for wind if you intened dialing then level your underside of scope or top side ie ontop of turret with the flat top of the reciever/action that way when you dial the turret you dial up regardless of whether the ret is pissed or not if you use hold over then plumb the ret line with a plumb line say at the bottom of the garden the countless scopes I have plumbed in for people have inc leupold,nightforce, a couple of schmit, bushnell,tasco,bushnell etc etc only one out of hundreds was true and that was a bushnell how you check????? plumb your dialing scope in with a plumb line down the garden, a spirit level on the action to keep the gun straight and move the scope and gun till the scope's ret is plumb with the plumb line,,,,,,now have a look at the spirit level on the action,,, you will be shocked, most of you anyway dont fear when you are horrified at the results, just decide whether you want to dial or hold over and the re-read above for which set up suits your needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I can see where you are coming from but i am not convinced I would have to see the effect in real time before i am won over. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 are you dialing or holding over????? there is a diference and one will not work right for the other dialing in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 if your scope has a flat base then level off that and level off the action, if not then level of the top of the turret then when you dial you will be dialling true and not dialling off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 if your scope has a flat base then level off that and level off the action, if not then level of the top of the turret then when you dial you will be dialling true and not dialling off its a nightforce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 some dudes on the hide use a feeler gauge between the flat bottom of the sadle and the flat of the action or flat of the bases but spirit levels are easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Feeler guage method works great with flat bottom scopes, easier method is bubble level on action top to get leven then place scope in rings and rotate untill cross hairs are level checked with level placed at 90 degrees to boreline otherwise you get a slight false register . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 yeh the slight false run out you mention is retical run out which for most manufacturers is upto 3 degree thats why if you plumb your ret off the action and `dial' you will dial off you should choose whether you are going to dial or hold over if dialing then ignore the ret being off and level action to turret so when you dial you are dialling true and not off if you are using hold over them plumb action with ret that way when when you are holding over you are not holding off to one side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 All you need is this http://search.ebay.com/Tasco-Scope-Guide-#...QQsonewuserZ1QQ , more than good enough for most rifles and quite easy to use. Ian is right the vertical hair in the reticle is the one to straighten , the horizontal line is mostly of no use except where it intersects the vertical one. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hi Silent I read your post and found it very thought provoking, it sounds very plausable but not sure I want to believe it I'll be checking mine out in the very near future, normally use the level and plumb line method. Do I really want to prove my scopes are PANTS ?? Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsoulsleave308holes Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 yeh then you can true the vert adjustment and be dialing true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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