col48 Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 hi all has any one got a TAP for the stony point OAL gauge This is the 5/16x36 tap Stoney Point uses. Order a 0.297 (19/64) drill as a tap drill. http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PARTP...;PMPXNO=1735758 i would like to TAP out a 6.5 x 47 case and if someone has one handy it will save me sending for one. ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Colin I havent got one, but you could try Chronos or RBG in the UK, they have loads of obscure size taps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 You can buy a modified case for a 6.5x47, probably cheaper than buying the tap. Cheers dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Col, You will have a job finding one of those here in the UK as it is a UNEF a thread not used much here. Check out Engineering supplys or even ebay, but you would be better off ordering one from the states. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Col I apreciate what you are wanting to do, but it may be easier (and quicker) to use a split case to measure OAL or seat depth?? I have never seen an accuracy difference bettween the two methods providing you are careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 If you decide for the tap a good supplier especially of odd ball stuff is, Tracy tools They are based somewhere in devon. They do everything by post, good service and sensible prices. I have used them a number of times, once bought some left hand drills caught a few people out with those Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
325WSM Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I second Tracy Tools. I sent for one a couple of years back and it came next day about £6. They have a lot of high quality US taps and dies in odd ball sizes - very useful shop. http://www.tracytools.com/ If you dont want to buy one Col send me your case(s) and I will tap and post it back. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ronin, Due to the extractor design in nearly all bolts and methos of case retention etc etc, there is a considerable difference in acheivable acuracy between split case and the ( Stoney Point )now Hornady kit,, using the rifles bolt is not an accurate way to measure OAL, for shoulder/ case length, the best is a case fired in the rifle in question. None of these methods are absolute, just some have a better chance of success than others, particularly for the owner. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Forgot to add If you want a modded case Col, Hornady will post it to you ,just order off their website. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 RF without wishing to enter into an argument (just a difference of opinion), I have checked my method, against the Stoney Point tool in my own rifles and my mates (who was using his tool), we got nigh identical measurements when we checked a variety of chamberings (.22-250, .264's, 308's etc (well withing .001-.002") I think, my method works equally as well as the SP / Hornady tool - (being a skin flint its cheaper too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest varmartin Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 the best and most accurate way of finding your bullet seating depth is to have a dummy chamber cut with the same reamer used to do your barrel, Yep.. thats what I had done from `Russ Gall` in Scotland. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
325WSM Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 the best and most accurate way of finding your bullet seating depth is to have a dummy chamber cut with the same reamer used to do your barrel, Nice idea.................. BUT how do you know it has been cut to the same length as your rifle's chamber without measuring it - and to measure it what would you use? A S.P.? I am not really looking for an answer M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
325WSM Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I know but the point I was amaking was the chamber is only correct when the bolt is fitted as the length is adjusted accordingly. With a dummy you need to measure to trim to length. Anyway I still find the easiest is by using RCBS Precision Micrometers for each cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I,ve just looked at the tracy site, 325wsm, those taps and dies are ridiculously cheap....Are they any good? do they compare to sheffield made stuff etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
325WSM Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I have bought all my taps and dies as well as quite a few other consumables from them for some 15 + years and can honestly say US product quality usually equals our own and is often better but is always considerably cheaper. They also make things I can never get over here such as Burnishing drills. For US made HSS drills try Ebay.com as the US site often sells in packs of 10, 12 or even 25 and I really do find those as good as Dormer etc but at Taiwanese prices even with the cost of P&P (You need to ask them to send in the International Prepaid envelopes - 4lbs weight for $11.50) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 hi all i thought i could save a bit of time/ cash but i have decided to buy the 5/16x36 tap + the 0.297 (19/64) drill as a tap drill . and i have got a 9/16 x 20 tap coming Thanks all Colin PS i got them from http://www.tracytools.com/ and have one of there catalogs coming. thanks MRY, i had heard of them before but did not think they would have what i wanted, but they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
325WSM Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Who did you buy the lathe from to make sure your drilling and tapping is accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Who did you buy the lathe from to make sure your drilling and tapping is accurate? LATHESRUS ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hey Colin another vote for TracyTools, I was looking for a 1/2x13 TPI ANS tap to clean up the thread on a Rem 700 bolt. I thought I would have to order across the pond but Tracy had one in stock and in my hands 24hrs later at quite a reasonable price too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hey Colin another vote for TracyTools, I was looking for a 1/2x13 TPI ANS tap to clean up the thread on a Rem 700 bolt. I thought I would have to order across the pond but Tracy had one in stock and in my hands 24hrs later at quite a reasonable price too hi ronin ye they get my vote. i got the stony point drill and tap and another i needed the very next day. and the stuff is top quality. ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Told you so..... Always had excellent service and oddball stuff never seems a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'm surprised nobody commented on the left handed drills or did you think I was kidding If you use a battery drill in reverse it is ideal for drilling out broken bolts etc, if it picks up it usually undo's ( or snaps) and also for a laugh if you use in reverse and drill your hole, then click to forwards and hand it to your mate and watch him struggle ;) well it was alright for me youv'e just seen me use it :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 308Panther Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Eldon. Your cruel, Now pass over the left handed screwdriver 308Panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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