Guest Sprags Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I had a zeroing session today on my land and found the .243 with 58grain V-MAX was very accurate, sorry, no pics of the target used as I didnt want to embarrass the the target guys with my 'paint tin lid' target The bullseye was a small lump of mud about the size of a 10p piece stuck to the lid Anyway, it grouped very well, 5 shots all within an inch @ 100yds, now that may be crap for some folk but it's ok for me!! Regards,Sprags!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charly hunter Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Well done pard, and I like your thinking, I too am happy with a group under an inch. If it's less than an inch at 100 it will still be fine at 200, and if you are like me and out lamping a lot then how often do you shoot at a fox past 200yds in the dark. I will never take a shot of let anyone I shoot with take a shot after dark at more than that range, Even with the best lights on the market at ranges past 200yds you are focused on the target and you do not see all that is behind the target so how can you be sure it's safe. And before you guys jump down my neck about the safety issue, I have seen it first hand with expireanced riflemen that have shot at a so called fox to find out it was a cat, sheep, deer or someones dog. Good on you for being happy with your groups I think to many folks get carried away with wanting to shoot one hole groups and yet never shoot competions. I take my hat off to those that can but me personally don't see the point just to shoot a rabbit or fox etc. But I dare say there are plenty out there that will tell me I am wrong so I will go get my flack jacket and helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingbags Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Nothing wrong with that Sprags. That will drop a fox well past 200 yards if you wanted it to. Just out of interest, have you tried the 75grain v-max as they shoot a lot better out of my Sako than the 58 grain v-max does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
village idiot Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I echo all of the above, and agree with Charly Hunter 100%. OT Charly Hunter, right on pard, wherabouts are you based, I'm a Camborne man originally, Village Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toots Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Nothing girly about that mate. Also an owner of the same gun, or am I girly too? Sub 1" is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stag1933 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Hi guys. I`ve run stalkers shoots for many,many years and believe me very few people manage to score 30/30 on the standard grouping target at 100 yards. [1 inch bullseye.] I have scores and records going back many years. It is better though to shoot on a standard target as these can be kept for future reference when developing loads. As `shooting bags` says the 75gr V.Max shoots well in his Sako, it does well in mine too, also with the 68gr Berger. I have also tried the 75gr HP Speer recently, it too does a grand job. HWH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 308Panther Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Nothing wrong with a huntin rifle that groups moa. Its in the past 3-5 years that many commercial rifle makers have been uppin the bar on accuracy claims...Some even guarantee sub moa. Many many huntin rifles will group 1.5 moa or worse.And most manufactures feel 1.5 moa is acceptable for a hunting rifle. You dont need a rifle to shoot the .1's or .2's to drop critters. But its fun when they do. 308Panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rogern Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Spraggs What make is the M****ator on your rifle, it looks small and slim Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charly hunter Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I echo all of the above, and agree with Charly Hunter 100%. OT Charly Hunter, right on pard, wherabouts are you based, I'm a Camborne man originally, Village Idiot Hi pard I'm a Truro man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Spraggs What make is the M****ator on your rifle, it looks small and slim Regards Hi Roger, the m****ator is a PES mate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprags Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Nothing wrong with a huntin rifle that groups moa.Its in the past 3-5 years that many commercial rifle makers have been uppin the bar on accuracy claims...Some even guarantee sub moa. Many many huntin rifles will group 1.5 moa or worse.And most manufactures feel 1.5 moa is acceptable for a hunting rifle. You dont need a rifle to shoot the .1's or .2's to drop critters. But its fun when they do. 308Panther I know rifles are capable of some serious accurate grouping, some more than others I know, but I was chuffed to bits to say the least that I had acheived it. Maintaining it is the key from now on Like you say Panther you dont need sub MOA groups to drop foxes at sensible ranges!! Regards,Sprags!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxshot Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Respectable grouping Sprags, i think C,H has some very valid points in his comments,i know one shooter that came out on the lamp now i could see it was a cat he was looking at but he wasnt convinced so he waited a little as it was responding to the call, suprise suprise a cat showed up,i think if he had been by himself there would be one dead cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bramble basher Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 hear hear on all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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