Moorlander

Anyone got a MKIII yet? , there seems to be a few available.

24 minutes ago, 1066 said:

Far from humane I would think unless very short range. They are only just over half the weight of an ordinary pellet and with normal air riles <12ftlb they must lose velocity very quickly.

I doubt the law makers will take that in to consideration or if they do they may ban <12 ftl bs for hunting.

37 minutes ago, 1066 said:

Yes they do - These are made of tin and very light. I think it we be a while before we see anyone winning matches with them.

Like I mentioned I dont think lead should be a problem if it can be recovered/contained  which it can in target shooting , for small game in the sticks it may become a requirement to use lead free , IIRC a chap I know uses the RWS lead free on some wildlife reserve and its a requirement of the owners. 

4 hours ago, 1066 said:

I think there will be serious consequences for smallbore and air target shooting if lead is banned, and this will certainly have a knock-on effect further down the line. There's no substitutes for lead for precision competition shooting, the required accuracy just isn't there and not likely to be in the foreseeable future,  if a substitute is is eventually found and perfected it's most unlikely to be at a  comparable price point.

Dont RWS do lead free pellets?

First point is we are no longer part of the EU , There has been talk /controversy over a voluntary lead shot ban for game in five years  , its cost BASC a lot of members as members weren't consulted prior to the announcement, if and its a big if it does come into place it will not affect clay / trap shooters who generally shoot within a contained area.

Lead bullet ban ? well already deer stalkers are using lead free as some game dealer will not buy venison shot with lead bullets , its not law and as far as I know there is no proposed law in the UK , lead free game bullets can be very accurate as can target solids , I dont think target shooters have much to worry about for 5 maybe 10 years or if ever as they can arguably recycle lead bullet heads which should be seen as acceptable in the green environmental world.

Looks over complicated  and very expensive.

No idea but if they are in business I doubt being associated will do them any favours, it all seems very odd .

As it is a Not for Profit association I guess a full set of audited accounts will be available to all members and these will go right down to directors expenses ? or will anyone questioning the accounts be asked to leave as they are trouble causer ?   , I`ve seen this in some quite large clubs .

Someone has just politely asked who the current committee members are ? 🍿 . 

1 hour ago, The Gun Pimp said:

Do they (GBPRA) have a website or Facebook page - I'm struggling to find one.

 Yes , its here https://www.facebook.com/BAIRS-102853531838499 😄

2 hours ago, TSG said:

I think this may have something to do with NRA approval and getting representation as a discipline on the NRA general council which can give access to funding for overseas shooting. Just a guess.......

 

Yes , that makes sense or trying to get funding from somewhere .

Its looking corrupt before its got off the ground , an organisation`s /association`s members need to be able nominate and vote its committee in otherwise its just a commercial operation with no more credibility or say in how a sport is run than any other business does , clarity and openness are essential in the running of any club/association/organisation , they should also be not for profit, just my thoughts.

13 hours ago, Scotch_egg said:

But heaven forbid it’s spoken about on any other website other than the official website forum...

I had heard that through "range gossip" about their old set up , the PRL ( is that finished now ?) , it makes you wonder what they have to hide .

1 hour ago, terryh said:

Be good to see anything ‘take off’ but it does seem to have the air of grandiose about it 😉 Lot of Rule’s but I could not see a basic statement  of what the aim of the sport was - an executive summary if you want, but might have missed it? 

As others have said ‘who’ sorts any UK entrance out? Not sure the recent fuss associated with this type of shooting sport in the UK will be easy to get over (unfortunately 😕) so would need to be completely impartial.

It would be a shame if they miss the opportunity to make it all a bit more ‘skill’’ orientated as opposed to ( and pointed out) 20 + pound rifles with a further 10-15 pounds of added bags/weight and then tripod. Just dam silly way to go about a sport that’s supposed to be more mobile and adaptable, but that’s just me.

Yup, Satterlee’s in there but he’s only been involved in this sport ‘post gaming’ era so has missed the more fun side of things.

Anything with sponsorship is buggered. You no longer have a level playing field and people have to game it as they need to keep their sponsors happy.

Only time will tell how it all pans out 🤷🏼‍♂️

Its a commercial operation by the looks of it so the aim will of course be to make money.

Shooters are described as athletes , like gymnasts or like darts players ? 

On 4/4/2020 at 10:55 PM, EDP said:

I thoroughly enjoy the Target Shotgun Slug events I've been able to join in with - after reading a bit and then watching some slug tests on pootube I'm interested to know if we're allowed rifled barrels on section 1 "firearm" shotguns? I'll give my FEO a shout, not sure if those chaps and ladies in my police firearms team are currently furloughed though, so thought I'd see if anyone on here knows for certain, one way or the other?

Only if they are a single shot / single barrel or a lever action ,  s/autos or pumps are a no go.

5/8 x24 is the recognised muzzle thread.

Cant be used on deer and too expensive for fox so not much use in the  UK.

On 4/28/2020 at 8:32 PM, JBirchall said:

I’ve heard it and tried it but never got it to work so I put it down as rural myth. 

Its what the cullers use for the traps.

All plastic with no alloy chassis in the BiFrost?

If something is too good to be true ............

You really should inform the Police.

Crap with the NRA has been going on for years , alleged corruption etc , its a real shame , it needs to be run by vetted former business people with a clean track record.

https://savebisley.com/nra-litigation/

If you have an open ticket you can shoot anywhere you deem suitable  and that you have permission to shoot on , it sometimes takes a bit of work to get this into an FEO`s head , many are civil servants and dont know their jobs very well.

Ask on a knife forum ?