Roy W

4 hours ago, Bertie Bee said:

Hi, I am up in Newport Pagnell, nr Milton Keynes this weekend if that helps for the cabinet? 

I'm the opposite way unfortunately

cheers

Do you get to Bisley at all? I am interested in a cabinet

2 hours ago, Popsbengo said:

Isn't the point that when the police need to put someone down they do it successfully?  How many cases of armed intervention in the UK have resulted in an officer or third party being shot after the perp has been shot by the police?  Is there an actual problem that needs fixing?

exactly

At the moment, Police Firearms Instructors have to do the College of Policing course and be licensed by them. That doesn't prevent ex cops returning as Police Staff and being instructors, but outside contractors aren't licensed, so can't train them and qualify them, for now.

48 minutes ago, One on top of two said:

Sorry but most of the serious lads and lasses I have seen shooting practical/CQB whatever it’s called with sec1 shotguns , 22LBP ect would put 99% of Armed police too absolute shame , and the Airsoft gravy seals come to think of it . I think the police have a massive amount to learn for when there faced with and individual or god help us a group that really don’t give a jam doughnut . 

Quite possibly, but steel targets don't shoot back, nor do they explode. Rather changes the dynamics somewhat

No idea, each force is different and buy guns and ammo at their own whim and change them frequently depending which way the wind blows.

I expect they shot him twice to start with, assumed he was dead, retired to a safe'ish distance to await EOD, whilst high fiving and organising tea and medals. I mean, who wouldn't have thought he was dead. 

They probably missed all the vital organs, he came round, they thought 'buggar' , as you would when you think a PBIED is about to be clacked off. Got off as many rounds as possible to neutralise the threat, and some of which missed, as you would expect.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and the 9 o'clock jury (as we used to call them) can disect it slow time, with lots of 'what ifs' and 'should have's'. Bottom line is, they had a fraction of a second to sort it out, and fortunately nobody else got hit.

I expect the hit rate in close quarter fighting is much lower than that day, so the fact a few rounds went astray is more than forgivable.

I have to say that Narwhale Tusk man and Fire Extinguisher man were the real heroes that day! Together with the Polish bloke with the lance in Fishmonger's. If it hadn't been for them, a lot more people would have been injured or killed.

3 minutes ago, brown dog said:

Before or after the event in question?

I was told well before that, probably a good 1-2years ago.  These appear to be ARV though, rather than CTSFO's although I could be wrong. They got there very quick if they were.

The CTSFO's I've had dealings with in the past few years are easily recognisable by the clothing being two sizes too small, and the current assortment of badges they now wear, which makes them look like oversize Boy Scouts.

They've copied the Sniper Qual badge for Rifle Officers, they have some sort of bird badge (Albatross or Budgie, can't remember) and those who went to the Manchester Bombing (after the event) wear a badge with a Bumble Bee on it. It all looks rather me, me, me.

If the SAS began wearing Pink Tutu's, you could guarantee Police Procurement would be getting purchase orders out for them a few weeks later! 

Shuggy is correct, the Met CTSFO's did change to .300 Blackout in their MPX's quite a while ago.

I expect they all fancied a go while they could

What length please?

Anyone who takes issue with trade prices has never run a business. Margins are low as it is, without business rates, gas, electric, salaries, NI, Pensions, stock etc etc

Businesses need a profit margin to survive

a good mix of different rifles there

Sporting services are taking pre-orders from today for the complete rifles, circa £4500

Elbows are so 1980's! ................................

It does make me chuckle watching the 100yard snipers on Short Siberia with massive bipods and  rear bags getting excited that they keep getting V Bulls.

Hampshire sent out letters for this well over a year ago.

NABIS is a self licking lollipop and they more they get people to do for them, the more work they will get examining a range of fired cases, the more money they can charge.

Knowing which firearms was used is only of use if they know who stole it.

I once did an RAF Regiment Map Reading Course, it went like this.............

Out of the gate

Airfield on the left

Airfield on the left

Airfield on the left

Airfield on the left

Back at the Gate

Phew!

2 hours ago, Jim_halpert said:

Thanks Roy, I've managed to get the last set of original 1.5 skins from them. Nice to have spares! 

 

Ubique. 

Excellent

On 5/10/2021 at 12:05 PM, Jim_halpert said:

These rifles all look great, I'm currently building a fox rifle into an AW non folder stock, tried to find spare skins but Heck that seems impossible haha. 

Sporting services currently have quite a few secondhand skins, give them a bell. Website shows sold, but they still had them all on Friday

Doesn't it say it will accept any AR15 grip? If so, the Magpul MOE K2 is almost vertical

Did they release prices as well?

Lots of the Kings Lynn shooters visit Bisley regularly, for CSR matches. You should come and try one.

https://www.kingslynnstmichaels.org

'Anyone got any Dhobi Dust?'

9 minutes ago, brown dog said:

His phone number is stuck in my mind:

808010

Eight nothing, eight nothing, one nothing.

The dirty protests were, apparently, an attempt to make the H block feel more like home...................

Poor old Bobbie, he was half the man he used to be when he left us! 

More Chins than a Chinese phone book

A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind donkey called Eric!