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  1. FWIW, I am the lucky owner of both, until my 47 sells on here.

    A few replies have already correctly stated how accurate the 6.5x47 is and I FAC confirm that. I’ve found it almost insanely accurate. In my experience it’s best with 120/123 grain bullets and IMHO these aren’t really suitable for 1000 yards.

    Where the Creedmoor scores (no pun intended) is the ease with which it shoots at longer ranges.

    I have a Creedmoor smithed by Baldy and it just walks 900 and 1000 yards. I’ve not tried it against 7mm canons but that’s not what it was made for.

  2. As above. The Berger 210s and 185s will work in a 10 twist. Your best bet is to talk to Mik. He’ll guide in the right direction. Like all smiths I know, they want a happy customer. Just bear in mind there’s no such thing as a throat for everything, but if you throat it for the 200 hybrid it will shoot the 20X, 185 Juggernauts and both the 210 SMK and Berger, but not the SMK #2231.

  3. If you’re thinking of using the new Sierra 200 grain bullet (#2231), you will need at least 1:9 twist. Sierra state this on the box and all of who use them cannot get them to stabilise with slower twists.

    The other thing to bear in mind is throating. If you throat for the 200.20X a 2231 will have a exceedingly long jump, and we have found that to be sub optimal.

    The 2231 is difficult to tune, as the 200.20X can be. The Berger 200 hybrid is easier.

    Bearing mind Bradders caution about GGG ammunition, you have two choices: 

    Stick with a Barnard S and use Lapua cases or

    Specify a different action. 

  4. I fully agree with Dave T and Artiglio. I can’t see how this can be verified other than the “three rounds” bit. But how can certification be verified? 

    It was suggested by the guy who told me about this new rule that signing Quickload data would satisfy the requirement but that’s difficult to verify l

  5. I was recently informed of the new rule in the 2019 NRA RCO manual on page 1 of the Introduction which is copied directly as follows:

    5. Shooters who hand load their own ammunition must provide certification that their ammunition was prepared in strict accordance with accredited published loading manuals and must ensure that the Muzzle Energy (ME) value is within the permitted limits. They must be prepared to provide samples of their ammunition for chronographic analysis.

    Any thoughts or comments please. How is this workable and how are we hand loaders expected to comply with this rule?

  6. Interesting!

     

    As an aside, what do you do re 'jump' for the 155gn Hybrid? I've not found this an easy bullet to 'tune' - in my chamber / barrel it seems to need a large jump (40 thou' or more) before it'll perform. (By contrast, the 168gn Hybrid only performs if treated like a VLD and seated 'in' - not just me who has found that so it seems to be a general feature for this model. I'm not over-impressed by 30 calibre Hybrids as the Berger / Litz claims of tangent ogive like flexibility simply haven't stood up to scrutiny for me so far.)

    I found the same thing with the Berger 155 hybrids, and strangely the same as the SMK Palma bullet #2156. They both perform well after a 0.040" jump.

  7. The OP sounds like the guy was shooting at 1000 yards without already having a confirmed elevation at 900 or even 800 yards and that could be said to be stretching the boundaries of hope a bit too far.

    I was shooting on Stickledown a while back where a shooter was having a similar problem to that referred to in the OP. After 4 shots that the marker couldn't mark or call the fall of the shot, the RCO stopped him shooting.

    When I spoke to the guy afterwards it turned out it was the first time he'd shot that rifle at distance and hadn't even obtained an elevation at 300 yards.

    Luckily for him we were shooting at 300 yards that afternoon and I helped him get a 300 yard zero having got him on the paper on the second shot.

    I advised him to leave shooting at 1000 yards again until he could first hit the target at 600 yards then 800 yards then 900 yards.

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