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32 minutes ago, No i deer said:

I'm well happy with my just over 1 inch group at 200yds then.

He was shooting from a rock steady bench 😄

An inch at 200 is excellent - always my problem is that it's not consistently repeatable.

Testing some ammunition at 50 yds last week I thought I was shaping up for a good group - only for the last of 5 to be a flyer.

These are the rest of the groups on the card - Top four groups Midas+, lower four Centre-x. Not much in it really. 50 yds - 2c,  Annie 54, wobbly table, Bisley, Melville range. no rear bag.
 

And these were same place, set-up using R50 which seem to perform as well or better.

1 hour ago, No i deer said:

F class John has a new video on YouTube showing his recent 22br match with his Rimex at 50yds practicing and then at 100yds in the comp..

Looks too be an inch or less groups at 100yds..

I guess he's using the ammo his rifle likes best.

I was certainly impressed with the steadiness of his bench and rest set-up. - it's a street away from NSRA benchrest with no rear bag and a flat front rest.

I believe the 10 ring on those US 100yd targets are 2" diameter so with a group size of 1.6" only about average I would have thought.

Unless you want to spend a reasonable amount on a digital scale - I would always opt for a beam scale and a set of grain checkweights.

Thanks JCS - enjoyed reading that.

Best wishes to you both - I've been retired several years now and loving it, never been busier

Excellent job, and what a fun project.. Reminds me of a little laser rifle I made some time ago for the grandkids. Just made from bits from B&Q and a few 3d printed bits. Shoots a laser flash at a reactive target,

On 7/6/2022 at 11:39 PM, Montey said:

I’m in Kent sold one of my Fclass open 300wsm had a phone call to discuss in about a minute then sent in my licence and had it back in a week 

Bit confused why they had to ring me but a quick conversation and job done 

speaking to any gun shop in Kent and they are getting phone calls every day because people are giving up shooting because of the online only system Kent now have one shop are considering offering a service to help with the online system.

 

The application/renewal form (Form 201 - 2021) is still available in the PDF form and can be filled in, corrected, etc. at your leisure. When you're happy with it print it off, sign it and send it recorded delivery.

FORM 201 – 2021 - Application for the grant or renewal of a firearm and/or shotgun certificate (publishing.service.gov.uk)

On the top row there's a box that says "Add text".

Yes, really enjoyed the spectacle. Doubt if we'll every see anything like it again. 16,000 rounds of .303 blatted down range.

Those presses there are my own design - the ones supplied are a crude copy of this type - without the wooden handle with just a flat steel base.

The plastic containers are bits I've designed and 3d printed to hold 3.1gns of Unique - just dip them in a tub of powder, level them off and you have six measured charges. The top of the container fit the cylinder so you can charge all 6 in one go. The two parts of the container are held together by a pair of magnets.

I'm very pleased with my Westlake Alfa revolver. I've had it a couple of years now and I've had no problems. My only gripe would be the poor loading tool/press that is supplied with the kit so I made a more substantial affair.

I use hand cast 158gn flat top round nosed soft lead bullet with Alox lube and 3.1gns of Unique - this shoots very well indeed.

This is six shots at 20 yds, rested on a sandbag with open sights.

11 hours ago, Laurie said:

 

I did some research on this for a Target Sports magazine feature on the last of the No.4 target rifles many, many years ago. IIRC, the 303 / SR to 7.62 / TR changeover was phased over 1967 and 68 with the latter year seeing all major comps transferred to the new discipline.

 

Thanks for that walk down memory lane Laurie - much as I remembered it. I also recall, when I first started as a young lad, someone suggesting that I tried using his Enfield No 5 Jungle carbine instead of my Dads rifle as the P14 was nearly long as I was. - Big mistake.  Never really wanted to shoot the No 5 again.

4 minutes ago, Laurie said:

 

Well, they are of course 😀

IIRC, the old Service Rifle 5-ring was 3.5-MOA in Enfield / P'14 days. No V-Bull either, and the overall size of the 'black' was far larger than today's TR target. There have been several target and ring size reductions since TR was introduced in 1968, and arguably they're still on the large size for 'Imperial' competitors in good conditions.

I seem to think it was about that time that we changed to 7.62mm - Until that time the .303 ammunition was heavily subsidised, I seem to think it was around a penny a round and included in your competition entry. You just walked into one of the long huts or the pavilion, looked for your club/county table and picked up your score cards and a box of ammo - a 50 round box with two missing for four ranges at 2 sighters and ten to count.
There was an awful lot of muttering about the expense of new barrels and needing to get the receivers beefed up. I also think, at about that time, many of the old local home-guard fullbore ranges closed down - did the change to 7.62 necessitate a greater safety area?

Agree - A quick visit to the zero range can save a lot of heart ache. Just bear in mind that the .303 zero targets are calibrated for the 174gn 2,500fps military round.
you might find some useful information here:

04(b). Using The Zero Range At the NRA Bisley. - Lee Enfield Rifle Association (lee-enfield.org)

Good lord yes. Prior to about the mid 1960's almost all fullbore target shooting was carried out using the trusty Enfield in one form or another - all aperture sights and supported with a sling - not a girly rest of telescopic sight to be seen. My very first visit to Bisley was in 1963, shooting my Dads .303 P14 in an inter-county competition on Stix at 900/1000 yards (I was just 13 at the time and had been shooting prone smallbore for a year or so)

I loaded multi-thousands of pistol calibre cartridges on a Lee turret with Lee auto-disc measure in the olden days, the press was getting a bit sloppy when the pistol ban came so I handed it in for the £30 compensation and immediately bought another just the same which I still use. I now only really use it for .357 gallery shooting rounds and really can't find a fault with it. I turn it by hand, not auto-index.
Loading this type of round is a different ballgame (for me anyway) to loading high accuracy long range rifle rounds. Although I only shoot these at 25 or 50 yards, using an unsized hand cast soft lead bullet they will hold the 10 ring fine - the flyers are all me.

I have no problem with priming on the press, carbide dies mean no lube worries, with the disc measure you can see the powder drop into the case, seat and crimp all in one. A light load of Unique, only enough crimp to take the flare off and the cases seem to last for ever.

No trimming lengths, cleaning, chamfering/deburring, primer pocket cleaning etc.
A visual inspection is all that's needed, a split case is immediately felt when you seat the bullet. Keep an eye out for squib loads, make sure you see the powder drop each time.

3 minutes ago, Popsbengo said:

Seems like a fudge to me

I'm not saying that's the way to do it but it could be as simple as flicking on a safety catch - quieter, possibly more velocity, possibly better accuracy. And when you see how much a round gets battered when stripped off some mags and then bent round a corner and slammed into the chamber, single feeding has got to be better for accuracy.

I really don't see why a semi-auto with a locked breech option isn't more popular. My old Voere semi-auto had this feature and was very accurate (for a semi-auto) when shot in single shot mode. It did unfortunately suffer from a lousy trigger.

To lock the breech on a .22lr could be a very simple affair, nothing more than, say a 6mm rod, and the bolt and receiver cross drilled - load your round from your single shot magazine adapter, slide in your cross pin - bang. Yes it might be slow but it could well improve accuracy.

I had a look at a fancy 10/22 with aftermarket fluted barrel recently - headspace 60 thou and really quite a sloppy chamber, I would like to have seen just how accurate it was but never had the chance.

That looks very respectable Terry.

I've used them (30-40 years ago) for .243, .308, .357 .45ACP and 9mm - They work absolutely fine and make good quality ammo if you take your time. It's not quick and you wouldn't want to do a lot of them but if you're on a real tight budget or had a cabin in the wilderness somewhere they do the job.

There's not a whole world of difference (apart from quality and price) between a Lee Loader and a set of Wilson hand dies.

Here's a set of .303 for less that £40.
Buy Lee Loader 303 British Online. Only £38.50 - The Sportsman Gun Centre | SGC

Thank you Chris - Gauges arrived this morning in good order.

I'll have these please Chris..

I know absolutely nothing about stonework but that looks a grand job to me. 👍👍

Take them off the rifle and stand them side by side on a flat surface - if they still don't match up then yes, Tier One should put it right, they are not cheap mounts.

I could be that the "teeth" that bite on the dovetail are a poor match for the angle dovetail cut. The dovetail on the Annie was never made to fit standard scope rings, it's designed for the very fine fitting on the aperture sights.

I can't quite see from the photo but is one higher than the other? If so - not a bad thing, just use the taller one at the back - this will give you some extra elevation for free - just like having a 20moa rail fitted.

The graduations on this scope are a rather unusual 1/10th moa - Wind it right down and come up about 20moa, should get you near enough optically centred - then you would need around another 6-7moa to get you to 100yds. If way different from that you have a problem somewhere else.