bigun Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 How to Make a Ghillie Suit A "Ghillie" is a Scottish game-keeper. Pronounce the word "Gee' lee", starting with the glutteral gee (guh), not a jay sound (jee). These guys found that they could sew strips of burlap to their clothes, then wait patiently for poachers to come by -- as long as they remained still, their game would nearly step on them. The real professionals at making Ghillie Suits are military snipers. Making a suit and using it to stalk your instructors is part of the graduation from sniper school. I was once stalked by a special forces sniper from 500 meters across a field of grass, bushes, and general scrub -- at the end of 4 hours, he stood up TEN METERS BEHIND ME! -- I never saw him -- even though I knew he was out there somewhere. Good, professional-looking Ghillies can be seen in the movies "Sniper" and "Clear and Present Danger". In most lighting conditions, detection is a result of both brightness and shape contrasts with the background. Most camouflage fatigues do a pretty good job of matching the general brightness level of foliage, desert, etc. The camouflage pattern printed onto the material attempts to match the shapes inherent in the background as well. Unfortunately, all camouflage fatigues follow the human form pretty closely -- resulting in an overall shape that looks like a human, not natural background. The problem lies in the fact that the fatigues are trying to duplicate a three-dimensional pattern of shapes (foliage, usually) with a two-dimensional camouflage pattern applied to a sheet of fabric. In most lighting conditions, it don't work very well. Now, camouflage fatigues and jackets and such certainly blend in much better than blue jeans and T-shirts, but they aren't totally effective -- and cannot be without adding three-dimensional noise to the essentially two-dimensional form of a human. A Ghillie Suit is a very effective camouflage technique that uses strips of material to break up the outline of the wearer. This fools the eye of the enemy -- the brain sees no recognizable shapes. By adding strips of burlap, or camouflage netting, or branches off bushes to your clothing, you create the three-dimensional pattern disruption I was talking about above. The advantage comes from creating patches that are nearly the same color as the environment, while simultaneously creating ultra-dark shadows alongside. Printed fabric cannot create black patches as dark as real shadows the shadow is about 2 orders of magnitude darker than the darkest printed black fabric. How to make a Ghillie Suit: 1. Obtain an old pair of coveralls -- this is called the foundation of the suit. In a pinch a fatigue blouse and pants will suffice. 2. Get some burlap from your local fabric store (about 4 yards). The more burlap you use the more effective (up to a point) will be the Ghillie Suit -- however, it will rapidly become heavy (Army and Marine sniper suits weigh up to 20 pounds or more). 3. Dye the burlap some dark to medium green (Rit dye -- try to match foliage greens). Instructions are on the dye package), Dye a little (half a yard) brown (use sparingly). 4. Cut the burlap into strips 2-3" wide and anywhere from 6" to 12" long (mix up the widths and lengths) 5. Sew one end of each strip to the outside of your foundation -- all over it. Space them so that the ends of the upper strips will overlap the attachment points of strips lower down. The sides do not need to overlap. Fill in by tying vines, small foliated branches, grass, etc. to the suit by knotting the strips around it, or sew strings or cord at random over the suit to tie these material in. 6. Crawl and enjoy! TACTICS: Ghillie Suits are used for stealth -- move as slowly as possible, if at all. If one hides in bushes, and uses single shots, the enemy won't be able to find you unless they are looking almost directly at you when you fire. Be careful that muzzle blast doesn't disturb foliage or raise dust. An effective technique is to hide in the base of bushes near a path, let the enemy go past, then pick them off with single shots from the rear. A gun cover can be made using the same techniques and should be used to disrupt the shape of the weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Good write up bud,when i did my sniper Concentration/ course back in 93,i stalked my spotters to with in 80 yds,but then got a bollocking,,lol but on test day you have to pass ALL 7 tests,and with in them tests are other objectives which if you fail ,you fail the whole course,why its so hard and there were so little snipers in regts back then,its only since the 1st gulf war they have realised how effective a sniper team/section/plt is with in a regt.and now there on the increase. I have my certificate proudly on my wall at home,,passed sniper marksman. Mick How to Make a Ghillie Suit A "Ghillie" is a Scottish game-keeper. Pronounce the word "Gee' lee", starting with the glutteral gee (guh), not a jay sound (jee). These guys found that they could sew strips of burlap to their clothes, then wait patiently for poachers to come by -- as long as they remained still, their game would nearly step on them. The real professionals at making Ghillie Suits are military snipers. Making a suit and using it to stalk your instructors is part of the graduation from sniper school. I was once stalked by a special forces sniper from 500 meters across a field of grass, bushes, and general scrub -- at the end of 4 hours, he stood up TEN METERS BEHIND ME! -- I never saw him -- even though I knew he was out there somewhere. Good, professional-looking Ghillies can be seen in the movies "Sniper" and "Clear and Present Danger". In most lighting conditions, detection is a result of both brightness and shape contrasts with the background. Most camouflage fatigues do a pretty good job of matching the general brightness level of foliage, desert, etc. The camouflage pattern printed onto the material attempts to match the shapes inherent in the background as well. Unfortunately, all camouflage fatigues follow the human form pretty closely -- resulting in an overall shape that looks like a human, not natural background. The problem lies in the fact that the fatigues are trying to duplicate a three-dimensional pattern of shapes (foliage, usually) with a two-dimensional camouflage pattern applied to a sheet of fabric. In most lighting conditions, it don't work very well. Now, camouflage fatigues and jackets and such certainly blend in much better than blue jeans and T-shirts, but they aren't totally effective -- and cannot be without adding three-dimensional noise to the essentially two-dimensional form of a human. A Ghillie Suit is a very effective camouflage technique that uses strips of material to break up the outline of the wearer. This fools the eye of the enemy -- the brain sees no recognizable shapes. By adding strips of burlap, or camouflage netting, or branches off bushes to your clothing, you create the three-dimensional pattern disruption I was talking about above. The advantage comes from creating patches that are nearly the same color as the environment, while simultaneously creating ultra-dark shadows alongside. Printed fabric cannot create black patches as dark as real shadows the shadow is about 2 orders of magnitude darker than the darkest printed black fabric. How to make a Ghillie Suit: 1. Obtain an old pair of coveralls -- this is called the foundation of the suit. In a pinch a fatigue blouse and pants will suffice. 2. Get some burlap from your local fabric store (about 4 yards). The more burlap you use the more effective (up to a point) will be the Ghillie Suit -- however, it will rapidly become heavy (Army and Marine sniper suits weigh up to 20 pounds or more). 3. Dye the burlap some dark to medium green (Rit dye -- try to match foliage greens). Instructions are on the dye package), Dye a little (half a yard) brown (use sparingly). 4. Cut the burlap into strips 2-3" wide and anywhere from 6" to 12" long (mix up the widths and lengths) 5. Sew one end of each strip to the outside of your foundation -- all over it. Space them so that the ends of the upper strips will overlap the attachment points of strips lower down. The sides do not need to overlap. Fill in by tying vines, small foliated branches, grass, etc. to the suit by knotting the strips around it, or sew strings or cord at random over the suit to tie these material in. 6. Crawl and enjoy! TACTICS: Ghillie Suits are used for stealth -- move as slowly as possible, if at all. If one hides in bushes, and uses single shots, the enemy won't be able to find you unless they are looking almost directly at you when you fire. Be careful that muzzle blast doesn't disturb foliage or raise dust. An effective technique is to hide in the base of bushes near a path, let the enemy go past, then pick them off with single shots from the rear. A gun cover can be made using the same techniques and should be used to disrupt the shape of the weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Mick, Ummm, re-read that last "tactics" paragraph. Then re-read the whole thing. It strikes me as something of a treatise on airsoft ninjitsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Mick, Ummm, re-read that last "tactics" paragraph. Then re-read the whole thing. It strikes me as something of a treatise on airsoft ninjitsu. I make myself laugh sometimes; copy and paste the whole first paragraph into Google and do a search. I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 lol,,i didnt even read that bit earlier,,but yes i agree,i certainly wouldnt be in a bush at side of a rd,,waiting for enemy to walk past then shoot them in the back. not a tactical move or how a sniper would make a shot,or how a sniper works,,its not all about cammo and shooting,theres a hell of a lot more to working as a sniper,also u may not be there to shoot, ?? could be a static OP gathering INT.nothing else,,,, BIGUN Mick, Ummm, re-read that last "tactics" paragraph. Then re-read the whole thing. It strikes me as something of a treatise on airsoft ninjitsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 which i found out in bosnia,,b4 having my L96 taken off me,,too aggressive for the locals,,,,SO THEY SAID,,,lol lol,,i didnt even read that bit earlier,,but yes i agree,i certainly wouldnt be in a bush at side of a rd,,waiting for enemy to walk past then shoot them in the back. not a tactical move or how a sniper would make a shot,or how a sniper works,,its not all about cammo and shooting,theres a hell of a lot more to working as a sniper,also u may not be there to shoot, ?? could be a static OP gathering INT.nothing else,,,, BIGUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabryn Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 For those of us wanting a Ghillie Suit but wishing to buy a commercial one, anyone got views on best makers? Cheers Krabryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 For those of us wanting a Ghillie Suit but wishing to buy a commercial one, anyone got views on best makers? Cheers Krabryn The best ones to buy i think are these ones http://www.snipersystems.co.uk/id15.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 The best ones to buy i think are these ones http://www.snipersystems.co.uk/id15.html Mick, Judging by some of the customer feedback here on that retailer, I'd steer away from that option. Something packable that doesn't make you look like a wookie: I'd be looking at this http://www.uksnipersystems.com/#/headshoulders/4532913511 Or getting one of the ghillie vests with a couple of bundles of the synthetic jute sold here: http://www.rifle-cases.co.uk/Ghillie-Suits.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelsniffer Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Mick, Judging by some of the customer feedback here on that retailer, I'd steer away from that option. Something packable that doesn't make you look like a wookie: I'd be looking at this http://www.uksnipersystems.com/#/headshoulders/4532913511 Or getting one of the ghillie vests with a couple of bundles of the synthetic jute sold here: http://www.rifle-cases.co.uk/Ghillie-Suits.asp Bad feedback eh ?? ive only had this one dealing and was ok..ive a few suits similar to what are in the links but find the sniper system one more to my liking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabryn Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 For those of us who don't have the time, energy or manual dexterity to make 1 up from a kit, what opinions please on the off the peg suppliers. I am looking for - lightweight - fire retardant treated - full suit over covering usual waterproofs - rifle sock to match Cheers K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG RANGE CAPT Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Mick, Ummm, re-read that last "tactics" paragraph. Then re-read the whole thing. It strikes me as something of a treatise on airsoft ninjitsu. Camo and semi nakedness - does it matter ??? About four years ago I and my girlfriend at the time took a lovely stalking holiday in Scotland. The young lady in question, was new to the world of hunting and given that it was a lovely warm day She insisted in wearing hot pants, a vest top and lashings of of perfum - despite my advice to the contrary. (she never was one for wearing much :-) !!! In addition the young lady also wasn't keen on taking orders or advice in concealment. Dispute the fact she stood out like a very attractive sore thumb - it made little or no difference to all the deer that got shot on that trip. I still remain perplexed !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Warrior Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Camo and semi nakedness - does it matter ??? About four years ago I and my girlfriend at the time took a lovely stalking holiday in Scotland. The young lady in question, was new to the world of hunting and given that it was a lovely warm day She insisted in wearing hot pants, a vest top and lashings of of perfum - despite my advice to the contrary. (she never was one for wearing much :-) !!! In addition the young lady also wasn't keen on taking orders or advice in concealment. Dispute the fact she stood out like a very attractive sore thumb - it made little or no difference to all the deer that got shot on that trip. I still remain perplexed !!! Can I borrow her for a while? Can she do it for rabbits and fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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