Rifle choice, 22-250 or 223?

[silentsoulsleave308holes]

I use a cz 527 kevlar 223 and she's a tac diver, I use 52 amax running at 3250, I have also used 75gr a-max at 2850-2900, I tried lower speed for the 75's but it didnt like it too much.

 

some batches of 75 a-max worked and some didnt??????????????? maybe coz its a bit borderline of what the 9 twist will handle or maybe they were just a couple of bad boxes

 

never shot a munty or c/w yet though although I have shot plenty of impala over the pond with a 223 though they are a little big i think, a bit bigger than a roe

 

everytime I have had an impala in sight they look so small compared to other game (kinda roe size), then after shooting I always think to my self I should have used the 308

 

shot plenty of roe with a 308, 243 and 300 winnie but thats not much help either

 

can anyone answer whats a sensible speed for a 22-250 with 52-55 gr booooollets?

 

and what speed can they shoot say 60-69 gr?

[1967spud]

I use a cz 527 kevlar 223 and she's a tac diver, I use 52 amax running at 3250, I have also used 75gr a-max at 2850-2900, I tried lower speed for the 75's but it didnt like it too much.

 

some batches of 75 a-max worked and some didnt??????????????? maybe coz its a bit borderline of what the 9 twist will handle or maybe they were just a couple of bad boxes

 

never shot a munty or c/w yet though although I have shot plenty of impala over the pond with a 223 though they are a little big i think, a bit bigger than a roe

 

everytime I have had an impala in sight they look so small compared to other game (kinda roe size), then after shooting I always think to my self I should have used the 308

 

shot plenty of roe with a 308, 243 and 300 winnie but thats not much help either

 

can anyone answer whats a sensible speed for a 22-250 with 52-55 gr booooollets?

 

and what speed can they shoot say 60-69 gr?

7568 Hornady HP Match 52 grs 0 fps

8155 Sierra Matchking 52 grs 3650 fps

6618 Winchester HPBT 52 grs 3595 fps

6619 Winchester HP 53 grs 3565 fps

8156 Sierra Matchking 53 grs 3600 fps

3588 Norma SP 53 grs 3707 fps

3589 Norma SP 53 grs 3543 fps

3590 Norma SP 53 grs 3510 fps

3591 Norma SP 53 grs 3346 fps

19 Norma SP 53 grs 3707 fps

20 Norma SP 53 grs 3543 fps

21 Norma SP 53 grs 3510 fps

22 Norma SP 53 grs 3346 fps

9367 Barnes XLC 53 grs 3640 fps

9493 Nosler CT Ballistic Silvertip 55 grs 3850 fps

10886 Nosler CT Ballistic Silvertip 55 grs 3680 fps

10983 Nosler Ballistic Tip 55 grs 3660 fps

10301 Nosler Ballistic Tip 55 grs 3651 fps

10108 Sierra HPBT 55 grs 3615 fps

11387 Hornady PSP 55 grs 2891 fps 10265 Hornady SP 60 grs 3485 fps

10266 Hornady SP 60 grs 3510 fps

10337 Hornady V-Max 60 grs 3560 fps

9398 Hornady HP 60 grs 3550 fps

11473 Sierra SP 63 grs 3695 fps

11475 Winchester SP 64 grs 3490 fps

11561 Berger HP moly 64 grs 3350 fps

9622 Hornady HPBT Match 68 grs 0 fps

9027 Sierra Matchking 69 grs 3220 fps

10267 Speer SP 70 grs 3126 fps

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220 Unspecified 70 grs 3300 fps

9623 Hornady HPBT Match 75 grs 0 fps

7715 Berger VLD 80 grs 3350 fps

[22/250 foxer]

I use a cz 527 kevlar 223 and she's a tac diver, I use 52 amax running at 3250, I have also used 75gr a-max at 2850-2900, I tried lower speed for the 75's but it didnt like it too much.

 

some batches of 75 a-max worked and some didnt??????????????? maybe coz its a bit borderline of what the 9 twist will handle or maybe they were just a couple of bad boxes

 

never shot a munty or c/w yet though although I have shot plenty of impala over the pond with a 223 though they are a little big i think, a bit bigger than a roe

 

everytime I have had an impala in sight they look so small compared to other game (kinda roe size), then after shooting I always think to my self I should have used the 308

 

shot plenty of roe with a 308, 243 and 300 winnie but thats not much help either

 

can anyone answer whats a sensible speed for a 22-250 with 52-55 gr booooollets?

 

and what speed can they shoot say 60-69 gr?

 

you could down load 22/250 to 223 speeds but what is the point. take advantage of what its made for speed and had hitting

the 22/250 with a good mod like ase cqb is no louder then a 223 with same mod on.

as for a barrel burner you would be hard going shooting one out by just using it for vermin control.

 

even if the accuracy did drop off to what it was when new it would still group well enough to kill foxes.

 

its not so much the spped what kills the barrel its the constant shots down one on a range what does the damage.

when out foxing you mite come across one take a shot kill it. then mite not see one again for abit. so its not like your going to be shooting it red hot

 

223 is a cracking round and if you dont shoot over 200 or 300 yards at foxes get it. some people say get 243 but i was talking to a mate that shot 4 last night on his permission with 243.

 

and he said the range he had them at his 223 could have been up to the job at that range with half the powder charge per case

[menial 1]

I run a .223 nowadays purely for the fun factor. Fox, small deer, vermin all within it's capabilities. Cow that which promotes growth and vigour, sheep that which promotes growth and vigour, horse that which promotes growth and vigour, lumps of muck, in fact anything that's safe make good practice targets with 33% less powder, a barrel that can often go to 8000 rounds or more, the chance to go hunting with an AR15.

The reduced cost is a big factor to consider, the savings encourage you to shoot more which in turn improves your ability all round.

Deer cals. can do everything as well as a 22-250 but none can load accurate, effective rounds as cheaply as .223, so that's as good a reason as any in my book.

If you don't include .220 Swift, 22-250 is still the outright top commonly available 22C/F perfomance wise, it's just getting too expensive to plink with any more.

Pete.