Quickload advice - possible purchase

[Pazuzu]

Hi guys,

 

I've been thinking about buying QL for a while but I need a bit of advice about whether I can put in wildcat cartridges?

 

I've got a 6.5 Nemesis coming which is basically a 22-250 case necked up to 6.5mm and then fireformed blowing the shoulders forward and to a 41 degree angle.

 

Is it possible to plumb this into QL to check my proposed fireform load is safe (or to determine the safe level) and then run the numbers for a fireformed case?

 

The powder of choice is N150 but I haven't got much at the moment and I would want to determine whether I could use Varget safely (it's a bit quicker) to form the case?

 

FF load is usually about 33-34gr N150 and then 38-39gr for the finished article pushing a 123gr SMK.

 

Cheers!

 

Phil

[1967spud]

hese are the ones listed onquickload 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady 6.5 Gibbs 6.5 JDJ 6.5 Rapier (Potts) 6.5 mm Bergmann 6.5 mm Gibbs 6.5 mm Grendel 6.5 mm Leopard (6,5 WSM) 6.5 mm RSAUM 6.5 mm Rem. Mag. 6.5 mm Rock (WSM) 6.5 mm T/CU 6.5 mm-08 6.5 x 27 R 6.5 x 40 R Sauer 6.5 x 43 mm IWK 1962 XPL 6.5 x 47 Lapua 6.5 x 48 R Sauer 6.5 x 50 R (Reb) 6.5 x 51 R Jap. Arisaka 6.5 x 52 Carcano 6.5 x 52 R 6.5 x 53 R (Dutch) Mannlicher 6.5 x 54 Mannl. Schoen. 6.5 x 54 mm Mauser 6.5 x 55 Ack. Imp. 6.5 x 55 Swedish 6.5 x 57 R 6.5 x 57 mm Mauser 6.5 x 58 R (Sauer) 6.5 x 58 R Krag-Jorg. 6.5 x 58 mm Mauser Port. 6.5 x 61 R Swed Mauser DWM 431M 6.5 x 61 mm Swed Mauser DWM 431L 6.5 x 63 Messner Mag 6.5 x 63 R Messner Mag 6.5 x 64 (Reb) 6.5 x 64 Brenneke 6.5 x 65 RWS 6.5 x 65 R RWS 6.5 x 68 6.5 x 68 R 6.5 x 70 R 6.5 x 72 R 6.5-06 6.5-284 Norma 6.5-300 Weath. Mag. 6.53 Scramjet (Lazzeroni) 6.7 x 54 R Russ Biathlon - 6.5x54R 6.71 Blackbird (Lazzeroni) 6.71 Phantom (Lazzeroni) 6.8 mm Rem SPC

 

you can design a bullet with quickdesign so the answer to your question i would say is yes you can

[1967spud]

is anybody using the vista version of wuickload please

[Pazuzu]

hese are the ones listed onquickload 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady 6.5 Gibbs 6.5 JDJ 6.5 Rapier (Potts) 6.5 mm Bergmann 6.5 mm Gibbs 6.5 mm Grendel 6.5 mm Leopard (6,5 WSM) 6.5 mm RSAUM 6.5 mm Rem. Mag. 6.5 mm Rock (WSM) 6.5 mm T/CU 6.5 mm-08 6.5 x 27 R 6.5 x 40 R Sauer 6.5 x 43 mm IWK 1962 XPL 6.5 x 47 Lapua 6.5 x 48 R Sauer 6.5 x 50 R (Reb) 6.5 x 51 R Jap. Arisaka 6.5 x 52 Carcano 6.5 x 52 R 6.5 x 53 R (Dutch) Mannlicher 6.5 x 54 Mannl. Schoen. 6.5 x 54 mm Mauser 6.5 x 55 Ack. Imp. 6.5 x 55 Swedish 6.5 x 57 R 6.5 x 57 mm Mauser 6.5 x 58 R (Sauer) 6.5 x 58 R Krag-Jorg. 6.5 x 58 mm Mauser Port. 6.5 x 61 R Swed Mauser DWM 431M 6.5 x 61 mm Swed Mauser DWM 431L 6.5 x 63 Messner Mag 6.5 x 63 R Messner Mag 6.5 x 64 (Reb) 6.5 x 64 Brenneke 6.5 x 65 RWS 6.5 x 65 R RWS 6.5 x 68 6.5 x 68 R 6.5 x 70 R 6.5 x 72 R 6.5-06 6.5-284 Norma 6.5-300 Weath. Mag. 6.53 Scramjet (Lazzeroni) 6.7 x 54 R Russ Biathlon - 6.5x54R 6.71 Blackbird (Lazzeroni) 6.71 Phantom (Lazzeroni) 6.8 mm Rem SPC

 

you can design a bullet with quickdesign so the answer to your question i would say is yes you can

 

Thanks Spud.

 

It's not on the list so it looks like I'll be doing it the hard way

 

Nice to know I can though.

 

Cheers,

 

Phil

[TC]

You can play with case dimensions, capacity, weighting factor and starting pressure to get to a velocity that matches your real world load then use it for some modelling from there but it's obvioulsy no substitute for load development (or a clamp and a long piece of string.. )

 

I would have thought 22-250 AI (which is in there) would be a good starting point then increase the bullet and bore diameters, adjust the case length and capacity in grains of H2O.....

 

Have a look here for some ideas on tweaking QL.

 

http://www.6mmbr.com/Quickload.html

 

I'll be joining you with the same calibre over the next couple of months all being well so I'll be having a play at some point but there are some decent known loads as a starting point.

 

TC

[Pazuzu]

You can play with case dimensions, capacity, weighting factor and starting pressure to get to a velocity that matches your real world load then use it for some modelling from there but it's obvioulsy no substitute for load development (or a clamp and a long piece of string.. )

 

I would have thought 22-250 AI (which is in there) would be a good starting point then increase the bullet and bore diameters, adjust the case length and capacity in grains of H2O.....

 

Have a look here for some ideas on tweaking QL.

 

http://www.6mmbr.com/Quickload.html

 

I'll be joining you with the same calibre over the next couple of months all being well so I'll be having a play at some point but there are some decent known loads as a starting point.

 

TC

 

I'm just being geeky and haven't got much N150 at the moment

 

What spec rifle are you getting?

 

Cheers,

 

Phil

[TC]

What spec rifle are you getting?

 

Cheers,

 

Phil

 

Not completely sure yet Phil. I have a Manners GAT Thumbhole and a Border Cut sitting here, not decided on action or bottom metal yet, trigger will be another CG.

 

I only recently picked up my 6BR and have not finished loads for it yet so I'm not in any rush.

 

TC

[Pazuzu]

Nice, I think Chris is waiting on the die sets at the moment anyway.

 

Cheers,

 

Phil

[casts_by_fly]

I would think that either a 250 savage AI or a 260 rem AI would be pretty close to those specs. The 250 would need a bore upsize, but is the correct parent. The 260 is the right bore and is pretty close to a 250 case blown out. Both would have 40 degree shoulders. Both would get you a starting point in QL to see if Varget is close enough. Might be something on the web too if you look for 260 rem loads.

 

Thanks,

Rick