ChrisF Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi Andrew , Thanks for that , I have CCI small pitol primers , Lilgun , and 35&40gr vmax bullets , however have some factory hornady 35gr and its listed at 3100fps , BUt the Lilgun load is at ONLY 2842fps ? Just wondering why such a big difference in speed ? Later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi Andrew , Thanks for that , I have CCI small pitol primers , Lilgun , and 35&40gr vmax bullets , however have some factory hornady 35gr and its listed at 3100fps , BUt the Lilgun load is at ONLY 2842fps ? Just wondering why such a big difference in speed ? Later Chris What load? You chronographed this? I get better than that with Winchester 46 gr HP. My 13.5 grain Lil Gun loads are just over three grand.~Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thats off Hogdons maunal , and off the Hornady box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Heres a link to a pic of me rifle www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz then go " firearms/optics " & then look for " 17 hmr replacement " thread . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 HI Andrew , Can you post more details on the way you reload the hornet , and also the gear you use , ie what funnels etc , find it a bit tricky to get powder in case etc ? Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hi Andrew , Thanks for that , I have CCI small pitol primers , Lilgun , and 35&40gr vmax bullets , however have some factory hornady 35gr and its listed at 3100fps , BUt the Lilgun load is at ONLY 2842fps ? Just wondering why such a big difference in speed ? Later Chris I put some 35gn hornady factory loads over chrono and out of my cz527 with 20 inch barrel they were doing around 2890 I think the factory listings are on the liberal side. I have since had the Hornet re chambered to K hornet with 40gn vmax small rifle primers and 13.5gns Lilgun they do 3140 That is the max loading anything more than 13.5 lilgun and the primers start to flatten. Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 HI Andrew , Can you post more details on the way you reload the hornet , and also the gear you use , ie what funnels etc , find it a bit tricky to get powder in case etc ? Thanks Chris Sure Chris. I like to use a Lee Collet die on the 22H. Saves lubing the cases. I trim all cases to the same length. This requires a few minutes with a dial caliper replacing the shortest case outside the tray wth a shorter one if found. When I've eliminated all but the shortest I set my trimmer to this length. All cases are trimmed to match. Primed with smallpistol primers. The case mouth is then gently flared with a Lee Universal Neck Expander die. Just enough to get the base of the bullet into the case mouth. This eliminates the need to chamfer the cases beyond the amount needed to remove the trimming burr. It also helps seat the bullet straight into the case. No more unsightly bulges in the case neck of a loaded round. Charge with 13,5 Lil Gun. This fills the case to the top. I put a finger over the top and tap the case rim on the bench to settle the powder enough to start the bullet. I seat to a length that will allow me to feed from the magazine. Then I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die to apply a light crimp. Shoots bug-hole groups from my CZ.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Thanks , I am using 13.0gr Lilgun , with CCI pistol primers , and 40gr vmax ,light crimp , out of my 20 inche CZ , with can , its doing on avg 3000fps , over 35P , will run some more later , as the paper roll jammed ,and only got 5 out of 11 shots , highest was 3070 , lowest was 2947 , most in the 2980-3030 fps . Any one have tips on the paper roll on the Ohler 35P ? later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 This thread makes me wish I hadn't sold my Hornet... I had a CZ 527 American which performed very well with Rem factory ammo and reloads (H110 and Hornady 50gr SP's). It accounted for a lot of vermin and was fun (and cheap) to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sion Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I,be just joined the forum and seen this topic. I,m thinking of getting rid of my hmr, I already have a .204 but the hornet seems pretty appealing. Roughly how much would it cost per round to reload. Hmr is about 30p now and several out of each box is faulty. Thanks, sion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bewsh Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can you make an accurate round up for 38p ? . It will be cheaper to use than a 22mag or the 17hmr , and have MUCH more power , and be OK on goats at short range as well . I like the idea of a hornet but can't justify it as I have a WMR and .222 WMR ammo doesn't cost anything like HMR ammo (round here at least) £20-22 per 100 for WMR (20p a pop) £29-32 per 100 fro HMR (29p a pop) I load the treble with 52gr Amax and 60gr Hornady Soft Points (devastating Roe round) both £21 a box (21p a pop) 22.6gr of N133 (680 shots per kilo = 10p) 20.8gr of N133 for the 60g (9p a pop!) could get that down using N130 and lower charge levels of the faster powder if I wanted to..pennies in the long run treble loads are 30-35p a shot but can be tuned much lower and cheaper down to 35gr and hornet levels if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sion Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Definately a calibre to consider then. Thanks for the info bud. Sion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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