dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hi, Does anyone have any experience of the Ward D Vision add on nv unit? I am looking for an add on for use on three rifles, Fac air rifle, .22lr, and .22 khornet, I must be able to easily and quickly change it from one rifle to the next, There is very little info out there, or unbiased reviews, one or two videos on utube when it was the experimental Lardy vision. I would be using a Nightmaster 800ir, and need to get out to a max of 200-250 yards on fox. any input on its performance would be appreciated. I have a max budget of £750 so don't go suggesting archers and stuff instead!! lol Regards Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 No experience of it but if you search the net, it appears to suffer from supply problems as well as answering phones/email problems, archer have just brought out a new unit which might suit your needs http://www.starlightnv.co.uk/digital_night_vision.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Huuuuum? looks to be a nice little unit, I am not contemplating getting anything until the spring, so will wait and see what its like, I really cant understand why there is not more info on the WDV than there is, I know about the contact/reply thing I emailed and called several times to inquire about the unit but it got me nowhere, well exept an email asking me if I wanted to put down a deposit to secure a unit when they became available!!!! declined that one!!! ATB Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes me too, I gave up trying to contact Clive. An answering service is not something I expect when I am seeking technical clarification and being asked to part with several thousand pounds upfront. I just walked away. ATB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Several thousand pounds!!!!!!!! how many do you need!!!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Several thousand pounds!!!!!!!! how many do you need!!!!! lol One, list price £3250 Instead, purchased an Archer for £3000 ATB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 starlight are bringing out an addon next month £350 to £899 .good for fox up to 200yrd for the entry model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes I have just had a look on the starlight website, it looks a nice little unit, no details as yet, but will wait for it to come out before buying anything ATG Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ward D Vision is good for about 200 yards on a good night with decent IR but it whites out very easily with too much IR and as a result can be quite fiddly to get the picture right. However as has been said Clive is a nightmare to deal with and I have vowed that I will never do so again. Starlight's unit looks interesting but I would wait for some reviews before jumping in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think even Shooting Sports gave up after being promised units for test that never arrived, might be worth looking at the NV forum, they have blokes building all sorts on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeld Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 If that Arrow lives up to the advert I think I might get one myself, the way I read the ad is the basic unit is capable of 200 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 I wonder if its recognition range or useable shootable range? usually any ranges quoted on any unit is under perfect conditions and the best nv. As you say we will have to wait and see, but at that sort of price it does sound reasonable. Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 i have bought a camer off a chap on the nv forum to put together a addon.just put it on the back of a cheap hawk scope and had a little play on the back garden,not got a proper screen yet so used a yukon dvr and with a nm800 could see some trees about 180yrd no problem.all.the info is on the forum and a tutorial showing you how,and for less than £200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!! you are telling that to someone who didn't know his laptop has a web cam and has had it 2 years!!! Sorry but if you knew me you wouldn't be telling me how to make a night vision unit, a donkey would have more chance than me!! Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 i thought the same about me not tecno minded one bit.cant believe how easy it is.just gather a few bits and plug them together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22-250jock Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 honestly mate, its not difficult............as PC said, have a look on the forum for an 'idiots how to' guide WATEC NV TUTORIAL also the forum members can answer any questions you need to know about all the different NV units out there...........unbiased answers to boot cheers jock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks all for your replies, I will give the forum a look, the sony camcorder I have is looking a bit worried!!!!!!!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveWard Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hi All, Thanks for the interest in the product. Unfortunately I have suffered some setbacks over the past 2 years with family illness and then my own illness. This regrettably means that sometimes there are periods when I can't get back to people, which has lead to a bit of a 'reputation'. Unfortunately in the past year this has been taken advantage of by competitors and it would be fair to say that some opinions you come across aren't necessarily as impartial as you would expect Obviously as a rather better designed product than it's peers, there are people who have a vested interest in rubbishing either it or our company. Personally I can't see the sense in it. Having said that the Ward-D-Vision is manufactured by us here in Kent and is always in stock. So there are absolutely no problems with supply and any orders are treated as a priority and normally sent within a day or so. It works extremely well and has an honest range of 200 yards. The other thing it does that nothing else on the market can do is not affect your shooting position at all as it occupies less space than the eye relief of most day scopes. Cheers Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 My review was spot on and was not in ANY way biased and I 100% stand by what I said. I have actually bought and subsequently sold a Ward D Vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 AnthonyR Hi where can I find your review? Regards Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Any pics of this product and more info please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Clive, I would suggest that you get some of your units to unbiased reviewers, It seems that lack of information and reviews is causing, lack of interest and people are holding back, It looks to be a reasonable product, But I for one wont be shelling out £600 on something I cant at least view or read a few reviews on. just my humble opinion. Regards Adrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I did a review on Youtube when I had the unit, the audio was pants but it will give you some idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNYsktboRmQ I was really referring to what I said above though, the unit itself is OK IMO but NVScopes are a nightmare to deal with and I have heard too many excuses from Clive. I have looked through another digi add-on made by Marky610 that I would rate as a far bit better but last I heard it's not going to be produced commercially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan5588 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I have watched your vid, pretty good comparison of the three units, and you are right, the audio is pants!!!!!! Its so hard to judge as a lot of the quality of vision must be lost through filming etc Regards Aj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveWard Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I have watched your vid, pretty good comparison of the three units, and you are right, the audio is pants!!!!!! Its so hard to judge as a lot of the quality of vision must be lost through filming etc Regards Aj Hi Adrian, Yes that is a particularly shocking video. This may help. A slightly better video, although there are still considerable losses after recording and especially uploading. http://youtu.be/chXaGiyn7Zg Cheers Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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