Binoculars with laser rangefinder and reticle

[snc_2010]

There are binoculars with laser rangefinders built in.

There are binoculars with reticles built in.

 

Are there any that have both?

[snc_2010]

Is the lack of answers the answer?

[snc_2010]

Looks like it...

 

Last try before I have to ask on snipershide.

[Deserttech Europe]

The only model I know is vector.

 

Sorry cant be more helpful.

[Deserttech Europe]

The only model I know is vector.

 

Sorry cant be more helpful.

[snc_2010]

They were the only ones I found. Would it really be that hard for someone like Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss to just put a reticle in some binos?

[Foxshooter]

Why would you want both?

 

the reticle is there for rangefinding but if they are LRF binos it would kind of defeat the object wouldnt it??

 

MArk

[snc_2010]

The reticle has other uses besides ranging. Both are useful.

I'm interested to know if there's a technical/manufacturing reason why more binos do not feature both or if it's for some other reason.

[Foxshooter]

The reticle has other uses besides ranging. Both are useful.

 

Do tell. Other than range and windage determination what use is the reticle?

 

Mark

[brown dog]

Do tell. Other than range and windage determination what use is the reticle?

 

Mark

 

Graticules aren't in military binos for range finding, they're there for adjusting indirect fire

[snc_2010]

Do tell. Other than range and windage determination what use is the reticle?

 

Mark

 

 

Graticules aren't in military binos for range finding, they're there for adjusting indirect fire

 

 

Yes. That sort of thing. I don't observe for artillery but adjusting direct fire is useful too.

 

If someone shoots at a tin can in front of a wall and misses a bit to the left, I can use the reticle/reticule/graticule to measure the angle between the pock mark in the wall and the tin can and tell them to adjust x.y mil(s) right.

[brown dog]

Yes. That sort of thing. I don't observe for artillery but adjusting direct fire is useful too.

 

If someone shoots at a tin can in front of a wall and misses a bit to the left, I can use the reticle/reticule/graticule to measure the angle between the pock mark in the wall and the tin can and tell them to adjust x.y mil(s) right.

 

Fair enough. Always find it slightly odd that sniper;s hide has built the impression that rets are only for judging range -when that's about the last thing they're for unless all other kit is non-functional and you've lost your map...or it's the 1960s again

I don't find binos to have enough mag for adjusting distant rifle fire, I suspect that's probably why the features are not often combined.

[ChrisF]

BD , you onto it , I donot look at the reticle in any optic , as a aid to milling for range estimation , I have always looked at it as a means of adjusting fire eihter direct or indirect fire , ALSO as a aid to talking another person onto a tgt from a major feature/reference point etc .

 

Never been into the mil/ranging thing , as far as I am concerned thier are much better & more accurate ways to calculate your range to tgt .

I see milling as something to fill in a sniper course and get the guys used to looking thru thier optics etc , rather than a real needed skill .

I see milling as only accurate at short range 0-450m , and at that range , you can be come quite good at guessing with aid of map etc quicker , also the traj is not too curved at these ranges to cause a miss .

For me , its a Mil LRF or a Theodolite .

 

 

Later Chris