9 minutes ago, weejohn said:

I have a few boxs of said bullets here but used them in 6x47 lapua , never chest shot any deer with them and always found they needed a little bone to expand in foxs , 95's would pencil straight through foxs but made nice small holes in chest shot deer and expanded really well if bone was hit. 

Ok thanks for that and it sounds like they are worth a try my last comment was a bit harsh thanks for the advice. 

53 minutes ago, weejohn said:

With such an accurate calibre as the 6br , i wouldnt be chest shooting them ?

Accurate caliber yes. But comparing say 0.2 moa br vs a good 243  0.5 moa? I think many more variables come in over the accuracy of the rifle after a long Adrenalin filled stalk. I get what you are saying but a chest shot is always nice to have up your sleeve and my preference. Seen neck shot deer react like they were never hit. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond but when it comes to recommending bullets for shooting deer you should have some first hand experience of the bullet in question not just agreeing with the previousevpost?? Having said that I will try a chest shot and see how I get on. If I am impressed I will take that comment back!

thanks

Sam

Ok so what I want is someone to come on here and say I have chest shot 100s of Roe with 88gr varmint bergers and they perform just fine......

With limited quarry use I’m not impressed with the 88gr bergers

1 roe neck shot. 2 crows. One 4inch post I don’t think they clout like a soft point?

I would love them to do the job the last thing I want to do is load another round. I will try a chest shot roe . Not convinced 

tell me more re a test on water bottles wet paper? What’s the bench mark? 

Hi Neil

Thanks very much for this it is very helpful. I have a very accurate "target, small vermin" load sorted with 30.7gr of vit 140. 88gr berger 1/9 twist 22.5in barrel 2960fps.

I now need a soft point type Roe bullet. I am more interested in how the bullet performs than the ultimate accuracy as 0.5 moa will be fine for Roe ranges say 150M or less. It would be very convenient to load with N140  

My thinking was Sierra seem to make good bullets, the 85gr is the closest weight to my 88gr bergers and I was hoping for the same POI. I know this is not always the case. 

1/ i need confirmation that this bullet will be good/the best for chest shooting vital organs on Roe? are there any better soft points out there of a similar weight? I found factory sako gameheads very good in my previous rifle on Roe not sure what bullets they use?

2/ to have a chance of getting a similar POI is 85gr a good starting point? im sure several have been in this position before re a new load. It might be the only way is experimenting? 

Thanks

Sam

Sierra Game King 6mm 85Grn HPBT (100 Pack) (S1530)

need to load a roe round for my 6 br 1/9 twist. Would like to use N140 . It loves 88gr  varmint bergers sent at 2960 FPS Would these hollow points above be a good starting point

any help would be welcome. Always got on well with soft points in my 223. Would like to use the same powder and achieve a similar POI if poss.

Sam

This knife sharpener is the key thing to my knifes, I have several and like them all some expensive but the 10 quid mora does what all the others do

a good review and I find a range finder a very useful bit of kit.

Does any know if there is a more compact bino out there that range finds rather than the classic 8x42 which quite a lot of the time I find  a bit bulky?

53 minutes ago, drum said:

The sierra 63 grain smp is effective on roe,very easy to tune a load for too.I think the 223,if you are aware of its range limitations ,has a place in a stalkers cabinet,not an open hill caliber for sure,but for close range,forestry use its adequate.

Sounds good 

What twist rate is your rifle re the 63gr?

Very useful reference thank you for that. 243 is the go to Roe round and for a good reason im sure. Reading that I will cap 223 Roe shots to 100M  if i see one out foxing (bullet change of course) and use the 243 for stalking trips.

When I have used up my 223 loading stock I am considering just using the 243.

8 hours ago, banus02 said:

depending on your rifles twist rate you might be able to go to 65gr sp or the speer 70gr sp.i find these very good on muntjac but not legal for roe in southern england.

My twist is not ideal having a 1:12. 

"Personally, and no offence meant, but I think the .224" calibre (in its .222/.223rem for) to be a bit lightweight for deer. The light bullets & small wound channels leaves no margin for error."

Anyhoo - it's legal, so aim straight & good luck!

This is interesting I am ready to start using my 243 on roe but so far with the results from the 223 I see no need?  but I have not shot enough Roe for complete proof with each caliber. I presume you have extensively shot Roe with both calibers to decide that a 223 is a tad light? may be the 243 would extend the confidence and range but I am only after a few for the table each year so can pick my shots. I only shoot 20 to 25 a year.. .........but let me tell you out to 170 meters 223 is a killer on roe! 

2 minutes ago, Catch-22 said:

I think the main issue with Gamekings in general are that they have quite a stout jacket. In some calibres, they can pinhole like a FMJ.

To be safe, I'd avoid the meat saver shot (behind foreleg into the lungs) and ideally either neck shoot or alternatively drive it directly into the shoulder/foreleg to help aid expansion & grounding of the animal. However, leg shots may not be the best option if the animal is largeish (90kg+).

OK thanks. I should have said that the concern in the old 2014 post was rapid expansion/explosion / deflection more like a varmint type bullet.

I would like to know what they would do to a Roe at say 100 Meters and are they suitable. The 55gr Sako game kings i use sometimes go all the way and exit but often not just quite leaving a substantial would channel I have had none run off and have dropped them to 170 Meters this is a long shot for me 100M is the norm! but they Knock most down on the spot or a small 20M run   

I have got a good few Sierra Game King 55gr 1365 SBT I was planning on loading for Sottish Roe. I have just seen an old post (2014) questioning there suitability for this purpose.

As they do a "Blitz King" (i use 50gr for fox) I presumed a "Game King" would be my Roe round......you know what they say about presuming.

Is anyone loaded these for Roe and used them with good results OR have I made a big mistake? 

I have got on fine with Winchester subs 40 and 42gr also Ely 40gr through my custom 10/22