sauer Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 hi folks, quick query for the gunsmiths with shotgun markings knowledge...... i have a 12g side by side "victoria" (make/brand ) and its spanish i believe very plain but aws new and tight / mint my query.....if you look at the markings on under side of barrel its says 2 3/4".....ok so 2 3/4" chambers...... but....along form there it is stamped "76" now im presuming that is 76 mm which i believed to be 3".... so is the gun 3" chambered or 2 3/4" chambered???? not that i would use 3" it would kick like a mule and its a tight choked gun too photo of markings here ps any info on "victoria" as a maker would be much appreciated sauer / paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 just an idea but it may be the year it was made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Are the markings a UK 'reproof' to 2 3/4" ?? they look as tho they overlap other marks and do not look very Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Looks like your 76 may be a red herring. If you look in the diamond on the right hand barrel as you look at it, it has 12/70 inside it designating 2 3/4 proof. Also 3 1/4 tons is standard proof if it had 3" chamber it would be magnum proofed at 4 tons per square inch. Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverd Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Sauer You need to give me a call tomorrow. Not that i am an expert on shotgun markings........... I have also missbehaved and bought another couple of shotguns, and we need to get out whilst the grouse and reds are not covered in snow! diverdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The gun carries "final" and "definitive" proof marks from birmingham. NP and the crown. " 2 3/4" is its chamber length, and nitro proofed for 3 1/4 tons per sq/ins....definatly not 3" magnum. The 12 inside the diamond indicates its a nominal 12 bore. The 12/70 in a diamond indicates bore and chamber length. Somewhere on there will be a set of numbers. It could well be the "76" or it could have 18.2 or 18.4 etc somewhere. These are the barrel diameters at 9" inside the breech. It is a starting measurement for a new barrel, and when it has got 0.010" bigger, the gun is no longer "in proof".A datum point basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauer Posted November 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 cheers guys sauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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