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Mike

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There has been a petition in Scotland to ban (or licence? it's unclear) airguns in Scotland - allegedly signed by 11,000 people.

 

See http://news.scotsman.com/comment/Ian-Swans...guns.5395232.jp

 

There is now a petition to No 10 asking the prime minister NOT to accede this to the Scottish parliament - see

http://psa.bizhosting.com/whats_new.html

which includes a link to the petition and a BASC press release.

 

Airgun shooting is vital to our sport as it's the way most people get their first taste of shooting. If Scotland goes ahead with this scheme there will be great pressure for it to be adopted in the rest of the UK - that's obvious.

 

I would urge all shooters (and their friends and families) to sign the No 10 petition, if they feel they can.

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Open question.

Is licensing, not banning, of airguns such a bad thing ?

 

To see how well licensing has worked to protect the public - see http://psa.bizhosting.com/Interesting.html under "ten years after" and "of interest to everyone in the UK"

There are other arguments such as the amount of police resources used, but they are not contained in those articles.

 

Perhaps other board members might have their views ?

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what about a profoccinacy (not sure thats spelt right :D:blush: ) test for ownership on all guns not just air rifles

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what about a profoccinacy (not sure thats spelt right :D:blush: ) test for ownership on all guns not just air rifles

 

Lets discuss proficiency tests:

 

A. Who would run them?

 

1. The Police

advantages - Police stations all over the UK, easy to acces

Disadvantages - takes the police awy from their primary role of looking after us, costs, and would probably be draconian.

 

2. The Shooting Organisations.

advantages - They know about the sport, proably cheap.

disadvantages - you would have to travel to (say) Bisley to do the course - and some courses run by shooting organisations are perhaps a bit over the top?

 

3. An new government organisation.

advantages - might provide good courses/tests

disadvantages - if local, would require many centres - great costs

If not local, still set-up costs, and travel - either way costs.

 

B. What is "proficient"?

10 rounds into a 2" circle at 100 yards?

10 rounds into a 1" circle at 25 yards?

10 clay pigeons hit with 10 shots at 20/30 yards?

None of these mean that the shooter is safe, or that he or she will remain safe.

 

Personally, for the reasons above I don't think proficiency courses would help at all and would cost a fair bit of money and time, but I'm open to any arguments to the contrary.

 

Your thoughts ?

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Guest varmartin

It all boils down to the same year old statement.....

 

Guns don't kill people .......People kill people....

 

So if taking away the tool used will stop it ...think again...

 

If it was a chainsaw that was used to take a life ...would the powers that be, ban all chainsaws or licence them ???

 

The right thing has been done...life imprisonment ....

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It all boils down to the same year old statement.....

 

Guns don't kill people .......People kill people....

 

So if taking away the tool used will stop it ...think again...

 

If it was a chainsaw that was used to take a life ...would the powers that be, ban all chainsaws or licence them ???

 

The right thing has been done...life imprisonment ....

 

 

 

Was it Prince Philip who said something along the lines of 'you could kill a man with a cricket bat but they wouldn't ban cricket would they?'

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