Wsm Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 A few weeks ago there was a new product released on the market called Gun Juice by Microlon.We were given a sample to try by Stuart Crane who is the importer of said Microlon to try out and today was the first chance with conditions of late.It was made clear that we`d release the results whether favourable or not which was agreed to I`ve got a Sako 75 stainless synthetic thats quite close to a re-barrel (in fact theres a lothar walther blank sitting in the cabinet) so it was decided that we`d use this as a test rifle.Rather than use my homeloads we decided that we`d try and recreate a typical stalker scenario and use only factory ammunition with the Sako which is a fairly common benchmark. The ammo choice was Federal Premium in 70 grain ballistic tip and the 100 grain gameking soft point.Again two regularly available choices for foxing and stalking.A Dog-gone-good front and rear bag were used The target was at 100yards and all shots were chrono`d.Again we decided to shoot at 3 shot intervals which is usually more than enough for the average stalker.Ten groups of three at five minute intervals with the rifle being cleaned after the 30 shots.The best five groups were then averaged to hopefully remove groups containing flyers or human error First up was the 70 grain ballistic tip fired with a clean barrel.The best group achieved was .866"(see below) with an average size of 1.16" not bad for factory Next up was the 100 grain gameking again shot through a clean barrel.Best group .833"(surprisingly the first three) and average 1.22" Next the rifle was treated with the Gun Juice as per the instructions using a patch and heat process.Apparently there is another way of applying between shots but I didn`t like the idea of dirtying the barrel between coats.The bolt certainly felt smooth but the priority was how it shot. Next up was the 70 grain bal tip.Best group was .657 average .889 below Finally the 100 grain gamekings.Again the best group was the first one out with .542 and average .899 below.Discount the shot bottom right as this was my dippy mate shooting at the wrong target There were some interesting readings with the chrono : 70 grain clean barrel average 3294 fps 70 grain Gun Juice barrel for the first two groups they averaged 3263 but increased to average 3364 for the rest of the test 100 grain clean barrel average 2783 fps 100 grain Gun Juice barrel the average was 2857 and all readings remained constant probably from the fact that the base coat from using the 70 grainers was already bedded in Conclusion We did this test intentionally using a factory set up thats seen better days and time will tell if its of any use to the precision specialists who are rightly very sceptical about magic formulas.However it seemed to work in our very basic test and no doubt the camp will be split on the benefits.Obviously the effect will vary from weapon to weapon and I can`t see this being a blanket fix for everyone.However theres some out there that this will be of interest to who want to take a punt on perhaps giving their gun a cheap fix And for the record we have no connection to anyone from Microlon and have not benefitted in any way other than having a sample to test and a pack to give away in our next comp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auquhollie Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 That is quite interesting. So am i right in saying this product is a cleaning fluid ? What was the patch and heat process you talked off ?. Obviously i know what the patch bit is it was more the heat part of the process. Ads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 According to the literature its a "dry film lubricant" that protects the bore.For the sake of the test I cleaned the rifle with KG1 and Butches as to make things constant.Obviously the Juice was still in the bore between the last two tests as the constant velocity seems to suggest.The lit suggests that it can be used to clean the bore but the test was done primarily to test the accuracy side of things.The cleaning claims are something to look further into The barrel needed to be heated between coats on the initial application.I simply used a hair dryer to warm the barrel a little and then passed the Gun Juice patch through the bore and repeated several times as instructed This link should explain things better than I can www.microlon.eu.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundmod Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 According to the literature its a "dry film lubricant" that protects the bore.For the sake of the test I cleaned the rifle with KG1 and Butches as to make things constant.Obviously the Juice was still in the bore between the last two tests as the constant velocity seems to suggest.The lit suggests that it can be used to clean the bore but the test was done primarily to test the accuracy side of things.The cleaning claims are something to look further intoThe barrel needed to be heated between coats on the initial application.I simply used a hair dryer to warm the barrel a little and then passed the Gun Juice patch through the bore and repeated several times as instructed This link should explain things better than I can www.microlon.eu.com Mambers may be interested to see the installation details so as to clear up any questions so here they are: Microlon Rifle Treatment Instructions Important – Shake all Microlon Products for 1- 2 minutes prior to each time you use them to ensure the sedimentary compound is in solution. Rifle Barrel. 1. Clean the barrel thoroughly 2. Remove action and barrel from stock 3. Remove bolt 4. Heat barrel with hairdryer or heat gun, ideally we want to see a temperature of 60 degrees C or more. 5. Thoroughly soak a patch with Gun Juice, attach to a jag and rod the barrel till it dries in the barrel. 6. After the 5th stroke you will not the effort required will start to diminish as the Microlon starts to treat the barrel. 7. Continue this regime for another 8 – 10 times - use the same patch as long as is possible as the compound builds up on the patch and increases the effectiveness of treatment you will note a glass like finish when treated. 8. Heat, dip and rod till dry 10 times 9. Your barrel is now treated; a glass like finish will be visible. Your weapon will now be easier to clean, we recommend after your normal cleaning process use 1 soaked patch with Gun Juice as a final pass. This will aid the final treatment on an ongoing basis. Bolt, Action and Trigger 1. Disassemble and clean. 2. Heat and apply Microlon Gun Juice by rubbing over the surfaces, let dry and repeat. 3. Continue this treatment 8-10 times. 4. Apply Microlon Precision Oiler after shaking the bottle to sears, firing pins and action bearing surfaces. 5. Reassemble. 6. Operate weapon to ensure full function Re-zero the rifle as in most cases the treatment will have altered slightly your impact point. Each correctly treated weapon will have better trigger pulls, a cleaner barrel that will normally show improvements in grouping by over 0.388"/MOA - 18% or more than 20%. The action will function more smoothly. Thank you for taking time to read this document, by following these instructions completely you will be helping yourself and you weapon to perform at its best potential. Always remember – Be Safe. If you have any questions about this process or any of our products. Please contact us Microlon Europe Ltd. Amesbury. Wiltshire SP4 7SE. Tel: 01980 625641 enquiries@microlon.eu.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildot Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Sounds too good to be true! i think im just being sceptical... but hey im sure im not alone! Is it going to be like mollying bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Sounds too good to be true! i think im just being sceptical... but hey im sure im not alone! Is it going to be like mollying bullets? Mildot We were offered a sample to try and report the results.That we`ve done and in the particular rifle the results were favourable We`ve done our bit and the products out there for others to try for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streeker59 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I've been using "FASTEX" in my barrels for years. It has the identical application method as the Microlon product. I also apply Fastex to my .223 bullets as i use top end loads and the product definitely lowers pressures ( a very flat primer as against a cratered primer with evidence of back flow without the application of Fastex ). Fastex embeds a 5 micron coating on the metal that cannot be chemically removed so the blurb goes.. Does it improve accuracy ? It certainly improved group sizes a little but the main advantage for me is that barrel cleaning is so much faster with a treated barrel. I can also fire 50 + rounds without detriment to accuracy before my head screams"CLEAN"... Old habits die hard i guess.. http://www.fastexfx1.com/main.php?cat_id=4 For those interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Funnily enough I bouht the Fastex set up many years ago as the guy selling it was a mate of a mate, never used it though and it slowly evaported in the bottle. Think I binned it the end but it might still be in my cleaning odds and ends. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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