.222

[millpool]

now here we go!

who would you very bright folk get to re barrel a sako L461 vixen with a heavy barrel and to really get you all going what barrel would you use and what twist rate? say shooting out to no more than 500yds , ilook forward to hearing from you!!!!

[charly hunter]

What's this your excuse to buy another scope???????

[millpool]

What's this your excuse to buy another scope???????

 

 

what me! buy another scope as if i would

[charly hunter]

I was meant to ask you, whats wrong with your 308??

[craigyboy]

try dasherman off here, he done my rifle and a few other guys and were more than happy. I have only had one custom barrel, a pac-nor and after 8 months and over 1000 rounds I am over the moon with it , cleans so easily and is very accurate, it literally takes 3 wet patches for carbon to get out and there is no cooper at all ever, the only cooper I saw were on the first 3 shots down the tube. It shot 2 groups last week at 200 metres that looked no different to groups at 100m, I wasnt going to post these pics as I aint sure if anybody would believe these were shot at 200m but they honesly were, though I will concede off a front rest on a good calm night but even still I was gobsmacked.

 

 

 

Not sure what twist I would opt for, depends if you have a specific bullet in mind, although for out to 500 yards you probably would want a bullet with around a .250 bc just for starters, something like a 55g v-max/52g a-max or similar not sure how hard the .222 would push those though as I have no experience with the .222, I think even these bullets at 500 yards would be left wanting unless its calm. If you stepped up to the 75g a-max you would have a more capable long range bullet but then the .222 case might not push this hard enough to make use of it. I think If I was doing a .222 I would stick with a 1-14/1-12 and use 40/50g bullets but bring the range down to 350 yards or so, though I am sure there are plenty out there capable of using it at 500 yards but I probably am not. I would also stick a nice mac thumbhole lazzroni stock on it and a 20 inch barrel about .750 at the muzzle, would be lovely for carrying around, but the barrel would still be meaty looking because its quite short and there wont be much taper due to the small action face of the 461.

[millpool]

I was meant to ask you, whats wrong with your 308??

 

 

the guns fine ,its the blancmange that fires it that has the problem ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,not going over silents tonight ,poss tomorrow eve,you on for it?

[millpool]

try dasherman off here, he done my rifle and a few other guys and were more than happy. I have only had one custom barrel, a pac-nor and after 8 months and over 1000 rounds I am over the moon with it , cleans so easily and is very accurate, it literally takes 3 wet patches for carbon to get out and there is no cooper at all ever, the only cooper I saw were on the first 3 shots down the tube. It shot 2 groups last week at 200 metres that looked no different to groups at 100m, I wasnt going to post these pics as I aint sure if anybody would believe these were shot at 200m but they honesly were, though I will concede off a front rest on a good calm night but even still I was gobsmacked.

 

 

 

Not sure what twist I would opt for, depends if you have a specific bullet in mind, although for out to 500 yards you probably would want a bullet with around a .250 bc just for starters, something like a 55g v-max/52g a-max or similar not sure how hard the .222 would push those though as I have no experience with the .222, I think even these bullets at 500 yards would be left wanting unless its calm. If you stepped up to the 75g a-max you would have a more capable long range bullet but then the .222 case might not push this hard enough to make use of it. I think If I was doing a .222 I would stick with a 1-14/1-12 and use 40/50g bullets but bring the range down to 350 yards or so, though I am sure there are plenty out there capable of using it at 500 yards but I probably am not. I would also stick a nice mac thumbhole lazzroni stock on it and a 20 inch barrel about .750 at the muzzle, would be lovely for carrying around, but the barrel would still be meaty looking because its quite short and there wont be much taper due to the small action face of the 461.

thanks craigboy,stunning group real food for thought

[17 Rem]

I'm delighted with the three barrels dasherman has fitted for me. The 3 groove Pac-Nors certainly clean up well.

[charly hunter]

the guns fine ,its the blancmange that fires it that has the problem ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,not going over silents tonight ,poss tomorrow eve,you on for it?

 

 

No can do pard.

[Alycidon]

There is a good artical at present on 6BR about an old.223 Sako rebarreled to a 20, just neck down standard 223 cases to 20 and thats it. Called 20 Practical, gets 4000fps plus out of it using light bullets. That would buck the wind better than a .222, using a 1 in 9 twist and Berger 50 grainers you should have your 500 yard performer.

 

A

[millpool]

There is a good artical at present on 6BR about an old.223 Sako rebarreled to a 20, just neck down standard 223 cases to 20 and thats it. Called 20 Practical, gets 4000fps plus out of it using light bullets. That would buck the wind better than a .222, using a 1 in 9 twist and Berger 50 grainers you should have your 500 yard performer.

 

A

 

 

now theirs a thought!!! ,thanks for that Alycidon

[Guest dasherman]

Got a new Pac-nor 20 cal 3groove 1:9 twist that was chambered in 20tac, was fitted to a Remy and then removed. Its only fired a proof shot, its in a Ruger Varmint profile, bead blasted and screwcut 1/2" unf and could be cheap!

[onehole]

Millpool sell em all and get a cheap donor action to be rebarrelled in 6br/6rnorma,you will only need one scope then cos that little baby will do it all believe me.regards onehole.

[Cornishman]

Millpool, are you trying to take the p*ss?

 

You know perfectly well that I have a rebarrelled Sako L461 in 222 and have had some 'issues' with it and I suspect you are tempting me into a situation that enables you to point out that your standard Cz 223 outshoots my 222.

 

Just in case the question is serious, which I doubt, can I remind you that I bought a cheap Sako 222 on the lovely Vixen action and had it bluebrinted, rebarrelled with a PacNor Supermatch barrel and bedded into a McMillan stock all at a cost that I'm not prepared to reveal but was more than you think. It shoots OK, sort of, but there's always one or two outside an otherwise excellent group. My latest theory is that the main spring inside the bolt is too tight (it's quite hard to pull out when disassembling the bolt) and that as a result I'm getting inconsistent ingition. If I hadn't got bored with the whole thing I'd have sorted it out but I bought a Cz instead and fitted a 17 Ackley barrel on it - lots more fun.

 

Anyway, 222 is not suitable for 500 yards, buy a fast-twist 22-250 and use 75g Amax bullets.

 

Or then again you could buy my Sako, replace the spring and weyhey...........

 

Cornishman

[millpool]

Millpool, are you trying to take the p*ss?

 

You know perfectly well that I have a rebarrelled Sako L461 in 222 and have had some 'issues' with it and I suspect you are tempting me into a situation that enables you to point out that your standard Cz 223 outshoots my 222.

 

Just in case the question is serious, which I doubt, can I remind you that I bought a cheap Sako 222 on the lovely Vixen action and had it bluebrinted, rebarrelled with a PacNor Supermatch barrel and bedded into a McMillan stock all at a cost that I'm not prepared to reveal but was more than you think. It shoots OK, sort of, but there's always one or two outside an otherwise excellent group. My latest theory is that the main spring inside the bolt is too tight (it's quite hard to pull out when disassembling the bolt) and that as a result I'm getting inconsistent ingition. If I hadn't got bored with the whole thing I'd have sorted it out but I bought a Cz instead and fitted a 17 Ackley barrel on it - lots more fun.

 

Anyway, 222 is not suitable for 500 yards, buy a fast-twist 22-250 and use 75g Amax bullets.

 

Or then again you could buy my Sako, replace the spring and weyhey...........

 

Cornishman

 

my dear conishman it was as always a pleasure to see you at the range today, you have thrown me somewhat! i feel i must point out to you that i was unaware that you had done a number on your sako,or if you did tell me i had forgotton(happens when you get to my age) no p...s taking intented , i was in fact juggling with the idea of buying my old sako back from the dealer(where it still lerks in the bowles of his prestigious emporium going rusty) as it would only be good for the action,i am mortified that you feel that me of all people would take the p..s!,however i am now to upset to carry on with the project and will now stick with my cz223 (which i have to say is going like a demon) due to silents tricky loads! as far as buying your sako is concerned ii must point out that i am only a poor retired person and could not possibly afford your 222(even more so now that you tell me its not as good as my 223!!) hope to see you at the range soon,oh! almost forgot you have 24 hrs to retract your statment of me alledgedly taking the p..s before my solicitors from the well known firm of libel specialists ,sue ,leggit ,and scarper are speeding round to your gaff with a writ!!!!!

[millpool]

Millpool sell em all and get a cheap donor action to be rebarrelled in 6br/6rnorma,you will only need one scope then cos that little baby will do it all believe me.regards onehole.

 

 

onehole,once again you are the voice of reason! impulse buying dont you just hate it!!!!!!!!! ,you may well have a point me old cocker , so much more polite than cornisman!!!!! very nice to see you today ,just about to sell 3 items that are on my ticket so room for something else then!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just not sure ,which is why i talked about the .222it was my old sako the one with the shaged barrel ,however due the verbal onslaught from "cornishman" im, going to sulk and just not do it!!!! ,regards to "mrs onehole " if your their next thursday maybe we can have a chat,i fell a custom rifle coming on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[millpool]

Got a new Pac-nor 20 cal 3groove 1:9 twist that was chambered in 20tac, was fitted to a Remy and then removed. Its only fired a proof shot, its in a Ruger Varmint profile, bead blasted and screwcut 1/2" unf and could be cheap!

 

 

now theirs an idea! could you pm me with regards to the amount of wonga you are asking for the barrel?

[charly hunter]

onehole,once again you are the voice of reason! impulse buying dont you just hate it!!!!!!!!! ,you may well have a point me old cocker , so much more polite than cornisman!!!!! very nice to see you today ,just about to sell 3 items that are on my ticket so room for something else then!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just not sure ,which is why i talked about the .222it was my old sako the one with the shaged barrel ,however due the verbal onslaught from "cornishman" im, going to sulk and just not do it!!!! ,regards to "mrs onehole " if your their next thursday maybe we can have a chat,i fell a custom rifle coming on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Why on earth do you want to sell 3 of your items to get a new toy when you never go out with what you have anyway???????

[millpool]

Why on earth do you want to sell 3 of your items to get a new toy when you never go out with what you have anyway???????

 

 

well,its like this ,selling my cz to "you know who" mauser .792 to that well known firearms dealer who we all know and love ,together with a .22 mod.so by my mathes ,that gives me 3 slots ,so i fancy something different,i must admit to be having been a bit of a "non starter" in the going out stakes of late,however his nibs is soon on his hols and should have lots more free time in the eve so you can see me miss all those bunys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! call you later