FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 hi been shooting years with fac air 22lr 17hmr just picked up over xmas 223 tikka hunter not a clue about handloading as yet, that will come when ive set ,scope /mod up, but my question is are 55grn factory loads perfect for fox/roe/muntjac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Fox and munty ye, can't comment on roe only ever shot one and that was with my 6br, How do they group, and what twist is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 1 in 8 good groups so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 1 in 8 good groups so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 what bullet are they loaded with,as an alrounder would think you'd be better using a softpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 CANT SHOOT ROE WITH THAT CALIBRE....LOOK AT DEER LAWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 CAN IN SCOTLAND IVE GOT PERM UP THERE HAVE DONE RABBITS AND FOX FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS ON THERE JUST LEFT DEER ALONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 . SORRY PORK CHOP 55GRN BTIPS CHEERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 never shot a dear in my life ,but bt's can do some damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 SAME AS I SAID NOT A CLUE WITH DEER CALS YET JUST FEELING MY WAY AROUND TO DEER ALWAYS WATCHED THEM /DISTURBED THEM NEVER SHOT ONE?. .PS I WASN,T TRYING TO BE COCKY WITH THE OTHER REPLY I JUST KNOW 223 IS LEGAL FOR ROE IN SCOTLAND DOUG.THANKS AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 CANT SHOOT ROE WITH THAT CALIBRE....LOOK AT DEER LAWS Yep think you will find 223 in Scotland on roe is fine, I'd recheck you rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Happy to stand corrected on specific Scottish rules ...CAPS were finger trouble not emphasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 sorry i didnt realize i had caps on myself thanks for any replys or advise its all wellcome once again thanks i might get 243 at a later date,if i can slip it upstairs without other half seeing it but for now i will concentrate on the 223 cheers. doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 thats easy just wait till she's out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 another ? exuse me if i sound or look daft for that matter bear with me im getting old whats the difference in the bullet presses, not counting price quality size what have you, does it matter for a new starter?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Or just have a 243 that looks the same as the 223 she will never work it out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 shes not a clue bless her i only keep her on for the flasks and butties, and she snores!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 another ? exuse me if i sound or look daft for that matter bear with me im getting old whats the difference in the bullet presses, not counting price quality size what have you, does it matter for a new starter?. as reloading press? i use a lee cast does ok.cost me about £110.my mate uses a rcbs and it feels very slick against the lee.both produce good ammo though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 mine won't make me sandwiches anymore (note to self keep mouth shut) .she's not got a clue how much guns cost though or that would'nt be the only thing i would'nt get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 rcbs it is then thanks, by the way dont tell my missus but i snore as well she hasnt clocked yet im allways shooting.cheers everybody for the replys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I have shot roe with my 223 using 55 grain ballistic tips and soft points there is a wee bit of meat damage but so far not one has not dropped on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryo Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Perhaps you could try the 60gr Nosler Partition if you're worried about damage on deer? Also that 8 twist will stabilise really long projectiles like a 75gr A-Max if you want to push the range out on vermin/targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 thanks for that guys thats what im looking for good info on 223 on vermin / small deer rounds upto 300mtrs.cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 thanks for that guys thats what im looking for good info on 223 on vermin / small deer rounds upto 300mtrs.cheers Hi, You might be well advised to pick one bullet and stay with it- you will otherwise probably get Point Of Impact changes between different bullets,though it might not be much at 100y. Whatever,do NOT use varmint designed bullets on roe deer-they are designed not to penetrate and can cause very unpleasant but not fatal surface damage. Bullets of the same weight/make can be match/target,or varmint,or deer/game.The deer ones are fine for varmints,usually,but not the the way round. Deer bullets legally have to be expanding-most 'match' ammo is hollow point,but that isn't 'expanding' by design.Almost all bullets will specify their purpose/design....be advised- for deer,get bullets so designed: Nosler partition have been mentioned: don't use V(armint)Max for roe..... heavier bullets generally have some knock down advantage on roe-see what advice you get here and elsewhere-there are enough good bullet choices.If you must have separate varmint/deer bullets,then OK-just be sure of the scope adjusments you need between their use-and write it down,stick it on scope,rifle,or you will forget on some outing... It's not difficult to be best set up for varmints/deer,just needs a bit of care in bullet selection,and don't expect equal bullet performance at 300 to100 yards-it's velocity,as well as design,related. Gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXANDY Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 great that covers exactly what im after thanks for all replys i am not rushing into it just feeling my way in , by the way i dont have any intention of shooting deer with varmint rounds at all just trying to find what i can and cannot shoot ,bullet choices factory wise as i am not reloading as yet. doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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