Ronin

Contact Sporting Services to ask ?

Dave Wylde or Alice Bond May be able to advise 

Did a similar job recently on a 6.5 Creedmoor that a chap had built bt someone - original custom Brux  barrel was re profiled and rechambered to 6.5/284 with some rectification work done to various bits omitted by the previous “skilled worker “ 

Rifle now shoots small groups and accounts for many “harder to reach” deer 

that barrel came off without any issue but factory barrels are quite another thing 

Thanks for explanation  Ian - is it just finish reamer and no resize ?(who made it please) 

Easy job

though I’d suggest moving the whole chamber .050” forwards to ensure the throat is freshened up 

The main issue you have is it’s on a T3 which can be notoriously difficult barrels to remove without undercutting the shoulder to relieve tension on the thread

I’ve a 20 ton press and specific contour shells to hold barrels and still find tikka barrels hard to remove unscathed, which is why you have the reluctance of the people you’ve approached I suspect 

I guess it could be done with a custom made thin parting tool (fifteen mins to make on the DBit grinder) - so the undercut is as minimal as possible but you would likely lose .070” of the barrel shoulder in doing so 

No great issue there - though another factor for consideration is the time spent on the job would surmount  to basically the work involved for a Rebarrel (therefore potentially 3-400 plus proof

Afraid I don’t have the 22-250 improved reamer so can’t help 👍🏻

Is there an advantage of the KMR over Shehane Ian ?

Echo what others have posted - who are very experienced “effers”

The standard when I dropped out of the league was a 1/4 Moa vertical dispersion at 1000 to be “competitive”

The 6.5 class of cartridges are simply outclassed ballistically in F Open and not contenders in FTR

7 mm was the datum to be in it (180 hybrids being one of the more common bullets used and Senar L 

I guess tge 47 would be good as an “out to 600” rifle but I think you would be best served with a dedicated rifle to fully enjoy the sport without the frustration of being hamstrung from the offset 

It’s similar but not the same 

Tang difffernt and action hole spacing (from memory) last one I rebarrelled was 2018

Surely your rifle smith has advised you about this ?

Link to a thread on the Hide 

I post under username Redmist there 

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/new-chassis-for-the-sig-sauer-ssg3000-200str.6931184/

Had one of the first Vision chassis in the UK which I imported myself for an ssg3000

it was really good 

The ATX factory chassis is better in my limited opinion 

The balance of the ssg was too rearward but the ssg action is a beast with a lot of metalwork under the main action body which contributed to the balance point 

I am not serious prs type shooter so my view is only my view 

The vision is a great chassis, well thought out and extremely well made 

Nothing 

it’s still running as is the rest of the forum 

The site isn’t just about sale posts, this is a tiny facet to it 

Great interview of Obi Won Nairobi 

Watched via social media 

superb efforts 

👍🏻

Fella called Richard on a social media site called sharp shooting uk was looking for a trg rail a week or so ago 

That’s a pity about Greg - I spoke to him a few times and never had the same experience as uou

Richard Franklin - there’s another name from the past - another Riflesmith ing legend 👍🏻

Precision Tool - yup they were the original designers of the low rider I was thinking of 

pity they don’t make stocks anymore as their products were ground breaking at the time 

👍🏻

Cerus are stunning looking stocks 

If that’s what you like order and import yourself (it’s a piece of shaped wood ) 

There is a company in the states (or was) when I was competing who made a low rider type stock and that was very effective - their design has passed on to other laminates available 

The Shehane Tracker stock was also very effective in competition back in the day 

Greg West (Virginia) used to make custom stocks too not sure if he is still alive but his F Class stock was simple and very elegant in design (I have one in Cherry Laminate) - it tracks well and is very stable 

These were the original lowboy type stocks 

https://precisionriflesales.com/new-2015-low-boy-stock-profile-and-weights/

Greg West 

https://www.6mmbr.com/catalog/item/1334860/803002.htm

Discussed here back in 2009,,,,

Just order one from McMillan direct or the F Class stock from Manners 

The latter I had two of when I was seriously competing in F Open and they were really very good stocks 

The waiting time for MCMillan will likely be 6-9 months 

Use something else in the mean time 

You could look at importing your own action from the States,  but it’s likely that it would take almost as long to get the paperwork and importation process complete as it would for any RFD to source one for you 

There are many alternatives to BAT actions that are as well put together 

Unless you “have” to have Bat because you have planned a chassis or stock around this 

Barnard P (Lapua bolt face) , Borden BRXMD is offered in Lapua Bolt Face

Both would be serious contenders against a BAT 

The Barnard coming with a world class trigger makes them a very attractive consideration 

Thanks for the amendment John 👍🏻

Yesterday was the last of the MOA Comps this year

They have proved to grow in popularity and yesterdays was very well attended with 30 attending to test their skill on the steel as far as they were able 

In essence the comp structure is this

Cold bore shot at 300 mtr, then Three shots at that distance. Should there be no hits, that is where you end the comp.

One or more hit, you move to the next distance until you miss all three shots 

The furthest target distance was 1572 yards (1437 mtr)

There was eleven stages (11 distances ) roughly in 100 mtr increments out to 900 then 972, 1050, 1237 and 1437 mtr)

The classes were 22 RF (100, 150, 200, 250, 350 mtr )

223

Short action 

Long action 

So the competitors were split into five details (with the RF comp running separately) and we then shot in detail the comp

Early on the weather was cloudy wet and little wind, this changed to clear without rain and a yellow glow appeared in the sky previously unheard of in the area - it actually became warm and dry 

Wind remained very mild though I still needed 1.0 MIL of windage despite zero wind reading at the firing point 

The details shot well and flowed through the day taking about an hour per target series 

There was on display some seriously well put together rifles and some stellar shooting under almost perfect conditions 

In particular Mike who was shooting a T3 in 260 REM who won the short action class and attaining 616 points 

The Long action class was won by Greg who managed to go the entire distance and hit the furthest target twice (first round hit and third round hit) using his 30-338 (728 points) 

The 223 class won by Graham with 212 points 

Rimfire- sorry I don’t have that info to hand 

What was apparent (apart from the seriously high standard of shooting) was how enjoyable the competition was and how many people were obviously enjoying themselves 

The Gardners Team in particular Rich and Gareth have worked really hard to make this a uniquely challenging event and they have excelled doing so 

Well Done 


Some images from the day 
 

If you are interested in participating in the same competition series in 2024 there will be four comps running 

Affordable accommodation is available nearby and camping available at Longtown whixh is a  forty min drive from the area used, practice is usually available the day before too as part of the entry fee (this may be subject to change in the planning for the next events )

The MOA challenge is a true test of skills for the precision rifle man (or woman) and is thoroughly enjoyable event

No egos, no frilly shirts, group hugs or folk demanding likes on social media 

Get yourselves there for a truly friendly and open to everyone event 👍🏻

Can only be a good thing for the steel plate shooting community

Makes perfect sense to run competitions in house - adds another provider to choose from 

Local sources suggest a contingent coming from Lancashire complete woth clogs and whippets as mascot

😀

I think it will be well attended -would be nice to see some attend from the Precision Rifle community as well 

Couldn’t make the Elite as other commitments 

will be at MOA next week 

Good luck for tomorrow chaps 

How far do these things work to and is there a maximum dimension for target frame 

(obviously you don’t want to be in a position that you spiral staircase a sensor )