Frederick

2 hours ago, Frederick said:

I started reloading my 6.5cm about 6 months ago . 

I had instruction and used Sierra 140g Hpbt . Must admit after ladder tests the groups were excellent .

Made a mistake in thinking perhaps a different bullet would prove accuracy . So I tried Lapua , Barnes and Hornady 🥴 . To much to soon , lesson learned .

However the Hornady ELD match were very accurate .

Whereas I'm finding Sierra bullets difficult to source , it's not so with Hornady .

I think I may try some ELD match in 308 and this time stick with it until I have conducted ladder and seating depth tests and chrono the results .

It's what I should have done in the first place , we live and learn 😀

Well , well , just bought a box of 500 Sierra 155g Hpbt online at a good price may i add .

So putting the Hornady on the back burner for now .

My Savage likes NRA GGG which uses Sierra bullets I believe . Used the RCBS swager on the crimps with a quick/light  ream and pocket clean and got the first batch of cases into the tumbler 😀

25 minutes ago, Frederick said:

Now that's a good idea , thank you 😀

I started reloading my 6.5cm about 6 months ago . 

I had instruction and used Sierra 140g Hpbt . Must admit after ladder tests the groups were excellent .

Made a mistake in thinking perhaps a different bullet would prove accuracy . So I tried Lapua , Barnes and Hornady 🥴 . To much to soon , lesson learned .

However the Hornady ELD match were very accurate .

Whereas I'm finding Sierra bullets difficult to source , it's not so with Hornady .

I think I may try some ELD match in 308 and this time stick with it until I have conducted ladder and seating depth tests and chrono the results .

It's what I should have done in the first place , we live and learn 😀

2 hours ago, Richiew said:

Try to get some GGG with the 175 Sierra match king bullet and see how they go then try to copy that . Hornady 155 or 178 eldms fly well and are a bit easier to get hold of . Cheers 

Now that's a good idea , thank you 😀

The 168 was designed for 300 mts I believe 😉

I intend to use them out to 600 yds and will look into 155 Palma or 175 for longer ranges .

The problem with 168g appears to be the angle of the boat tail causing instability and  hence becoming transonic around 1000yds ish. 

Well , change of plan .

Couldn't buy 155g Sierra , my club shop is still waiting for a delivery 🥴 .

Bought some 168g Sierra with Hogdon CFE223 ( again waiting for a delivery of n140 ) powder and CCIBR2 LRP .

As stated I shoot from 100 to 600 with occasional outings to 1000 yards .

Will be an interesting exercise 😀

I have about 800 fired GGG brass cases in 308 .

I plan to reload and have a reamer and a swager on order to remove the crimp .

My Savage Ftr has a chamber of 2.262 .

A GGG 308 has an  CBTO of 2.190 , meaning a jump of .072.

The cartridge has a  col of 2.795 which is textbook spot on .  Vihtavuori recommend 2.795 .

I will use Sierra 155 hpbt and CCIBR2 large primers .

I'm torn between n140 or n150 ?

Sierra state n140 but Vihtavuori state n140 or n150 .

I will probably try n150 as I already have some .

The powder in the GGG is spherical and it weighed 42.5g .

My plan is to replicate the GGG as near as possible , even though they use a different powder mix .

As the GGG brass is slightly heavier than Lapua etc I will reduce the max load by 1.5 grains as the case capacity may be smaller .

I normally start with a .010 jump but in this instance I was going to try and copy the GGG as much as possible , therefore textbook col . 

I shoot from 100 to 600 yds with occasional outings out to 1000 yds .

The above is just quick overview 🥴 had anyone got any advice/ recommendations ?

I would like to enter the Imperial in 2022 . Yes to see how I shoot , but also just for the experience 

I shoot a Savage Ftr in 308 and Bergara in an MDT stock in 6.5cm.

The problem I seem to have is which discipline and which comps to enter . As many are spread over several days this compounds the problem . Without accomodation it means a round trip of almost 180 miles every day .

I'm happy to keep it simple and leave the aggregates for the more comp experienced .

Any recommendations / advice for an Imperial newcomer would be most welcome 😁 . A comp completed in one day perhaps ?

I do shoot at Bisley with my club and alone or with friends . 

Generally 300 and 600 yds although I have shot at 1000 yds .

I have only used my 308 at Bisley , the 6.5cm used at The Rifleman's Hambridge. 

Thanks .

I'm going with RL15 😀

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2 hours ago, BlueBoy69 said:

Hi Frederick,

I think the people here would be most willing to help you, but I think you might need to specify the cartridge the powders and Hornady 123 grain match projectile will be used with?

I take it that the projectile is more specifically the 123 gr 6.5 mm ELD Match and from the prior charge weight of N150 you have used that the cartridge the 6.5 Creedmoor.

Neil

Thanks Neil , after googling for hours I was beginning to lose the plot 😀

Its a Bergara B14 HMR , 26 in barrel in 6.5cm , 1-8 twist . The bullet is indeed Hornady ELD match 123g , 6.5cm . It would seem I have to purchase Hornady loading data for one bullet 🤔

Have Lapua and Starline brass .

I have four powders .

N150 , N160 , RS60 and Alliant R15 .

I have used the N150 at 39.4g with Lapua 123g scenar .

There appears to be only  .007 between the CBTO of the two bullets .

Can I use the N150 with the ELD ?

Yes it has an Anschutz type rail .

I have a Bergara B14 , HMR 6.5cm.

Can I remove the stock and replace with a Bergara BMP chassis style stock ?

That's drop in , with no mods 😀

Fits a 3 hole Savage stock with 3.4ins between front and rear bedding bolts . Comes with two adjustable rear bag riders ( different depths see pics ) and the original fixed rider. 

The pistol grip has had the raised piece sanded down .

Cost 650.00 for stock and 190.00 for bag rider . So 840.00 total ( this year ) 

Sell at 590.00 posted. 

Can sell as separate items .

Stock with fixed bag rider  450.00

Adjustable bag rider. 140.00.

Mounts now sold .

Scope sold .

Mounts reduced 150.00

Scope now sold subject to usual .

It has the EBC -7C Moa Ret in FFP . I purchased the scope in August , unmarked and hardly used . Reason for sale , I simply do not get on with FFP . 

400.00 posted 

The mounts are Tier One 34mm. Again unmarked . The mounting aid slides under the scope to ease fitting , keeping the scope parallel .

165.00 posted 

Buy together , 550.00 .

I purchased the scope on August , unmarked and hardly used . Reason for sale , I simply do not get on with FFP . 

400.00 posted The scope is sold .

The mounts are Tier One 34mm. Easy to fit using the supplied guide 

I had photos of the scope and mounts , but they seem to have disappeared ?

Mounts 150.00 posted 

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Is the Kestrel 1000 still for sale , no photo ?

Mik at Dolphin replied today , good man .

Looks positive , fingers crossed . 🙂

Thanks for replying .

I have a Savage 12 Ftr Nra in .308 . The stock is adjustable and a reasonable fit . However I'm looking around to see if any off the shelf , " drop  in " aluminum target stocks ( pistol grip ) are available ? Have sent out a few emails,  waiting for replies .

Lots of stocks for chassis mag ' rifles , haven't found one for single shot rifles .

Any ideas ? 🙂

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