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Has anyone used this combination? I'm looking for data

You are also shooting towards stickledown (you can see the clock tower in the distance)

This is the view from the other side through a spotting scope, the hut on the right is the firing point.

So, the NRA have opened it up on certain days for individual members (up to 6 am or pm):

8:30 meet outside the office for a range brief, drive round to the entrance, RO lets you in, another brief.

9:00 - 12:25 shooting from 2 firing points, 2 shooting, 2 spotting (spotting scopes provided). Roughly 10-15 shots each before swapping.

Dry and low wind on Saturday, so fairly easy going.

In case you were wondering what it's like...

Fiocchi primers are long gone, they have ruag which is somewhat more pricey

I put some figures in for RS76 in this thread

I have tried RS76 with hornady ELD 225gr to around 80 gr, I can dig out the data.

Anyway, I had better results with n570 although it's really coarse to handle, gets stuck etc.

Yeah having done the HME check quite a few times, I don't find it that bad, I see it as a free go on zero range.

Basically I make sure I turn up at the office before it opens, grab a card and sign in, wander over to the zero range to claim a spot. Start at 8:00 stick 3 shots in the box and head back to get it signed then you're GTG. The key is to turn up early. Also don't put 3 shots in the same hole!

300prc so it'll be f open

Judging by past scores (or lack of) it doesn't appear to be popular, I'm guessing because it's not a 'normal' distance. It's a shame because there aren't that many opportunities to shoot 1100/1200.

...In the end, I had a go at 1000y on Saturday and accuracy was decidedly worse without the mod, I also got an answer from the NRA which was basically no.

However I realised F class is shooting alongside so I entered that instead (just wanted to have a go at 1100/1200 for a laugh). I'll attempt not to disgrace myself, no fancy front rest and probably no rear rest 🤞

Well I emailed via the generic email address but no response yet

I may just see what happens, if they say no they'll only regret the extra muzzle blast even without the brake 😁

I'm thinking of having a go at Match rifle in the any rifle class, just wondering if moderators are allowed? The Bible doesn't say either way

If you're interested:

http://ivsc.co.uk

The Moody's sessions are mostly just 200/300m individually marked though I try to encourage CSR so usually one or two lanes do rapids/timed/snaps or positional

Did you mean Chilbolton in Hampshire?

There's Andover which has pistol calibres out to 50m and smallbore out to 100y, also Moody's down which is MOD, Itchen Valley has a monthly booking, usually 200 or 300m occasionally 600y

Another pair available, no box but has instructions and spare screw

Mine just arrived

👍

5 hours ago, shooter83 said:

Will this work on .22lr? I put a black rifle one on me cmmg and it didn't have enough power to get the primer going 

Yes: the main difference between the standard triggers and the aftermarket ones is that they move the sear engagement much further away from the hammer pivot which decreases the force/friction which means you can have a heavy hammer spring but not increase the trigger pull too much.

I had no problems with light strikes with it on a .22lr, although I did find the pins walked in my lower (not had a problem with a different lower with straight pull), you can get anti-walk pins.

Not massively used

£250 + postage

SOLD

9 hours ago, snaggletooth said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234851155344

 

I've a rear bag from these guys, quality comparable to TAB Gear

I've bought several custom made mod covers from that seller, they're excellent

Yeah, don't believe the viht data, beyond about 22gr of N135 and you have serious powder compression at 2.260"

I've run up to 24.4gr but loaded at 2.394", chrono'd at about 2950fps but SD was rubbish at all 0.2 increments up to there so I gave up.

I hit the jackpot with 21.4gr / 2.260" with good SD and accuracy out to 600y albeit modest mv averaging 2659fps (20" barrel)

https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/ext-mag/

The top of the AICS mag has a crescent shape to match the bottom of the round Remington 700 action, whereas the AW is square, so the action needs a square notch to sit at the right height. Consequently as per the Coup ge Grace, if you run the AICS mag the square notch means that the mag can go too high and foul the bolt and then the fluting of the bolt catches and mangles the lips. Been there, done that!

I ended up selling all my AICS mags...

Anyway, the bolt on the CdG looks fatter than a normal 700 or clone (and it'd have to be to have 3 lugs) so the mag height would probably be a little lower.

There's an ancient definitive thread on the 'hide on mag differences:

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/aw-ae-aics-mag-diffrences.222/

The AW mag is the same length and width as the AICS: bottom metals are fine though the length of the catch needs altering.

I have a Stiller cut for the AW, it needed a longer latch to push it tight to feed properly. KRG make a longer latch to suit their stocks...

1 hour ago, John MH said:

If the fall of shot is near impossible to spot how does the RO Know that the shot has not gone over the Stop Butt due to a dope or dialling error? 

Maybe a review of the NRA Rules on missing a target should be reviewed:

A firer who neither observes nor receives any indication of the impact of his first shot, or in a practice where shots are not signalled individually of at least one shot in the first string, may only continue if one of the following applies:

a.  The firer identifies and rectifies a fault or error (eg mis-set sight) that would reasonably account for the miss.

b.  There is reasonable evidence (eg an unexplained shot on the next target) that the firer has crossfired.

c.  There is reasonable evidence (eg based on the advice of other competitors, which advice shall not be considered to be in the nature of coaching) that the wind allowance applied was such as to account for the miss.

d.  With the permission of the RO (eg as in Para 301). A firer acting as his own RO may not authorise himself to continue.

We did zeroing first on paper 100y targets followed by elevation checks in slow time prone, so it wasn't a case of firing blind. "Impact of (his) first shot" was fine. The 300m plate was fine to spot, it got much harder to spot at 500/600m and beyond.

For me £100 for a shoot is quite a lot, but much easier to get to than Orion and it's not something I'd do too often,

That said, there needs to be banks of sand behind the plates, the splashes were barely visible and deceptive in that the strike could be way behind the target but visually below it meaning high shots appeared low. The furthest plates were just in front of the mantlet and there was sand behind them but no splashes visible.

Targets at 300m, 400m, 500m, 600m, and 918m from the left of the 1000y point...

Positions were: prone, standing / kneeling baricade, oil drum / beer keg, mini tank trap

The thing to look out for is that the 300prc takes the longer mags, the MDT ACC is fine. I was looking at the KRG bravo which is also compatible but now sold out at match scopes. For conventional stocks there's a different bottom metal for the bigger mags