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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Woaa!!! Very impressive this velocity just over 3000fps! (Without signs of higth presure certainly? ) Can you specify the load and the powder Zzrpilot? With Small rifle the new LAPUA case are more brass around the Primer Pocket and perhaps a better resistance to the Presure than a Large primer Case??? (For Pow1 : For the LAPUA Scenar 139 gr I tried one jump : .020'', and I have a good accuracy ! ) A+ Laurent -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello evrybody, This morning I test my five reload,s vellocity at 100 m in a irregular Wind (20 Km/h) to grow in furious point to 40 Km/h... Look at this : What reaload you will choise to long Range 1000 m ? A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hi pow1, Sorry, I can't measure my velocity Yet ! Between the RS60 (same Powder Re17) and the RS62, for the accuracy my choice go to the single base RS62. But If you prefer the higth velocity you must use the RS60... My LAPUA Scenar 139 gr prefer a Jump .020'' in my RPR.I use RWS 5341 in my Hornady ans Norma case 6.5Creedmoor because in France we can't find the good Fed GM210 M... I will test soon the new LAPUA case (SR) ... About LR primer look at this : http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/04/ultimate-large-rifle-primer-shoot-out-16-types-tested/ Have a good day! A+ Laurent -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hi guys, I have a good accuracy in my RPR(at 300 m!) with five powders but I don't know yet the velocity !!! (exept the load 44 gr N160 = 2726 fps) My next test it wiil to measure those velocytys... The best load is with the USA's Powder H4350! Wait and see... A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Yes I tried those tow powder in my RPR (24'' Barrel, 5R) Norma Case RS60 gr : (LAPUA 136 gr “L”) -38.5 = 749 m/s -39 = 764 m/s -39.5 = 770 m/s -40 = 777 m/s -40.5 = 792 et 810 m/s -41 = 800 et 825 m/s -42 = 849 m/s -42.5 = 864 m/s -43 = 878 m/s My most accurate load RS60 (double base) is the 42.5 gr with 136gr "L But after this first test I used the 139 gr LAPUA most accurate in my RPR ( thanck Laurie ) with the RS62 (single base) My accurate load is 44gr but I don't knox yet the velocity... Always with the 139 gr LAPUA at 300 m, I tried N160, H4350 and curiously the most accurate loads with these 3 last powders are the same load 44 gr! (I don't Know the velocity yet!) Now I had 870 rounds throw my barel and I test the RAMSHOT Hunter with the 139 gr (always most accurate than the 136 gr "L"!) Here my next test to 300 m : A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Thanck you very much Laurie for this post ! About the "ecologic powder" the same work for RAMSHOT By PB Clermont (Sorry it's in French! ) A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Thanck phaedra1106uk I actually did all these checks and everything is in order after this of ejection problems! The ejector plunger moove well when I pussit with a pincil, and the extractor look like ok. I don't understant and I explain my problem to Ruger and Hornady Yesterday... Wait and see!... A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Thanck for your reply! Look at here for explain my eject prolem on my Ruger Precision Rifle : https://youtu.be/2_SzOzX0hOQ It was realy the same troubles ? A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello guys, Sorry to disturb you! I have an ejection problem with my new cases HORNADY in my RPR, they fall into my ejection window and I have to pull out them with my right finger ! While with NORMA 6.5CM and LAPUA (. 22-250 REM) cases, I haven't ejection problems !!! Have already meet you this ejection problem with Hornady cases (lot # 4160138)years has a RPR bolt? A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello, I test this weekend the H4350 at 328 yards , 44 gr H4350 + LAPUA Scenar +Norma Case +RWS +5341(COAL 2.82'') Why very good accuracy for a FACTORY gun! (H 0.98'' L1.77'') But I don't know the speed of this load! I haven't got "Quickload" can you help me please? A+ Laurent -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Here the new brass 2017 LAPUA production : http://www.lapua.com/en/headlines/335/6.5-Creedmoor-is-here! 6.5 Creedmoor Small Rifle We’ve opted for the small rifle primer, which normally produces an optimized ignition and better accuracy than large primers in mid-sized cartridges like the Creedmoor. A+ Laurent PS / I find in Belgium the last RAMSHOT Hunter -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hi guys, Do you tried this Belgium powder in 6.5 Creedmoor ? I think she work well in this cardrige! A+ Laurent -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Laurie, thanks for your explanatory reply on the N160! I actually checked in my RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor that the use of double basse sacrificed accuracy at the speed! I prefer shooting accuracy (not PRS) so I'll confine me to the use of the N 160 and RS62 has a good potential for accuracy in my barrel 24 '' 5R. I like your last part 2, 6.5 MM CARTRIDGES http://www.targetshooter.co.uk/?cat=58 A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello Andrew, I was surprised, it's dificult to buy Vihtavuori Powder in USA !!! (John Whidden use this powder whith big satisfaction!) Last week i test in my RRP Those four powder : With a big surprise, the N160 work more well than the H4350 !!! Perhaps it's my "Magic Load" in my RPR... Pleasure to read you soon. A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Laurie I test last week the LAPUA 139 gr in my Ruger Precision RIfle(24'' 5R Barrel) and I have a very goods results at 100 m ! For the load of 43.5 gr N160 I have 35 fps ES and 14.8 fps for the SD with a 1/3 MOA accuracy! 1-2668 2-2690 3-2703 4-2703 5-2703 For the load of 44 gr N160 I have 9.7 fps ES and 3.9 fps for the SD but 1/2 MOA accuracy... 1-2732 2-2729 3-2725 4-2725 5-2722 The N160 give a very hight load density so I have a very good regular Speed with this slow burn powder! I was surprised this N160 isn't use more in 6.5CM in usa??? Thank you very much Laurie for the information to the old 139 gr wonderfull bullet! A+ Laurent -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Yes Andrew! I molycoated myself all my bullets with a Lyman Kit when LAPUA stop hie "Silver" bullets production ! -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Here my futur test in 6.5 Creedmoor in my RPR : With the magpul PMAG I have .026'' jump with lapua 139 gr and a jump .051'' with lapua 136 gr. Wait and See the speed at 100 m... A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello Laurie, Thanck you very much for you complet answer! I want to apologize because I didn't clarify that I had chosen the LAPUA Scenar 136 gr L compared to the BERGER 140gr VLD ... In my Ruger Precision rifle I use a Magpull magazine PMAG with a COAL of 2.825 " and with the BERGER 140gr VLD I have big Jump (about .080'')...And the accuracy is very bad at 300 m. In this same day test I test the 136 gr LAPUA an I have a big surprise with a good accuracy whith RS60 40.5 gr (H x L de 1.96'' x1.96'' at 300m) . I thinck it's a good accuracy for a Ruger factory Barrel....But when I engrease the speed(for LR) whit RS60 I have some Flyers so I will test other powder... For moment I have a good accuracy with my 136 gr + 44.5gr N160 (I don't know yet the speed)! But I will follow your informations to H4350 , I will test at 100 m loads 41.3gr, 41.5gr, 41.7gr, 41.9gr (and 42.1 gr) with a Chronograph for know eatch speed. I anderstand that the new technologie of this 136 gr LAPUA is the "similar" Hybrid BERGER with a secant profil in the top of meplat and a tangent profil on the Bearing surface...The Ruger 6.5Ceedmoor chamber is made to use the factory ammo Hornady (A-MAX) so all tengeant profil bullets will work more right in my ruger than VLD , but I realy think the 136 gr Lapua is a good compromise ! Wait and See Laurie... A+ Laurent. I will -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello Shuggy, Yes the 6.5creedmoor cases are very expenssive! I buy my Norma 's case in germany (Waffen-Helfer) with the gun Smith I buy my Ruger Precision Rifle (169€ one undred!) I buy also 6.5 Creedmoor case on BROWNELL's .fr one unded Hornady Case (115.98€) I Buy one undred Lapua 22.250 for a nex Fireforming (100€ one undred) 22-250Rem LAPUA after NeckedUp) A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hello Laurie, Thanck for your reply! I read with attention yours answers in this other post : http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/31491-creedmoor-with-rs52/ Sorry I don't have the RS62! But last weekend I test at 300m in my RPR (LAPUA 136 gr "L"+NORMA Case) 10 rounds with RS60(42.5 gr/ 2837fps); 10 rounds with H4350(41.5 gr); 20 rounds with N160 (44.5gr and 45 gr) . (I don't know yet the speeds for the H4350 and N160! The X oft the electronic target mesuared 5cm (1.97'')) Laurie can you help me to coment my 4 tests please ? With this load 42.5 RS 60 (as like my test at 600m and 1000m) i have always a Flyer and more elevation... (8) About the load of H4350 I thinck I do increase the load over 41.5 gr to improve the goup! The placement to the first bullet (in the 9) can explaining by the conditionement of the barrel with the 10 previous shots with H4350? Because I thinck the accuracy of the last nine bullets is very good for à load whith 44.5gr N160 at 300 m! It's my magique load??? The increase load open the group! (bad accuracy!) respecfuly A+ Laurent. -
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BERGEON replied to BERGEON's topic in Handloading
Hi Brillo, I worked on a load with LAPUA Senar 136 gr "L" (42.5 gr RS60 - 2837fps) but I thinck the accuracy at 600m isn't good ( more elevation!) With this load I need 20 MOA (zéro 600m) to go to 1000m... I will test other powder to improved my load with the LAPUA 136 gr "L" GB546! Thank for your help Brillo. A+ Laurent -
Hello, I'm a French Shooter, my new caliber is the 6.5CM in my Ruger Precision Rifle, I will test some reloads with 3 différents powder RS60, N160 and H4350 for a LR use with à good speed... Have you experiences feedback? (In France the 6.5creedmoor isn't used,exept for me...) A+ Laurent.