JCalleja91 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 Any ideas as too why after the last few times I've been shooting that I end up with Tinnitus in my right ear despite using SureFire Sonic Ear Plugs and Peltor Sport Tacs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 are you using a muzzle brake ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 I have read that due to the hard connection between the head and the rifle stock there can be bone transmission into the inner ear. I'm not qualified to say if this is the case but it is widely reported. In my old job we were not allowed to wear earplugs in engine test beds as the noise was so intense - special large ear defenders were issued. The worst hearing loss I've ever suffered was following a Hawkwind concert - and I wasn't near the speaker stack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Popsbengo said: I have read that due to the hard connection between the head and the rifle stock there can be bone transmission into the inner ear. I'm not qualified to say if this is the case but it is widely reported. In my old job we were not allowed to wear earplugs in engine test beds as the noise was so intense - special large ear defenders were issued. The worst hearing loss I've ever suffered was following a Hawkwind concert - and I wasn't near the speaker stack! That makes sense.. so would plugging then stop that transmission inside the ear? Maybe I'll try without plugging and see if it's any better. 5 hours ago, banus02 said: are you using a muzzle brake ? Yes I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 then dont ! use a moderator if you have one but be aware of shooters either side of you using muzzle brakes. sound enters your ear canal through the bone just behind your ear and you will pick up muzzle blast shock wave through your head <concussion> that the main reason bisley have started charging extra for muzzle brakes and insisting if one is used you have to have at least one shooting lane separation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, JCalleja91 said: That makes sense.. so would plugging then stop that transmission inside the ear? Maybe I'll try without plugging and see if it's any better I don't think so, rather it's better to (a) reduce the muzzle blast and (b) wear good ear defenders with quality cuffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Ariel45 said: It's hard to say for a fact that there can be a bone transmission into the inner ear. Have you tried different ear pro's? Or perhaps you need to visit the doctor to proper diagnose what the issue is. I mean the Peltors feel like they have a better seal than the Swatcoms I use at work. And I use the surefire plugs at work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Jefferies Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 With more people using muzzle brakes at the range, I was also having hearing problems. This was even worse on covered firing points. I gave up on Sporttacs and went over to Protac Shooter. They are bigger and are rated at -32db instead of -26db for the sporttac. They are quite bulky, but I don’t find it a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 See this is the thing.. nothing sounds loud, I don't have any ringing in the ears immediately after. It's like.. After a few hours I start to get it, stays for a day or so then goes. I'll have a play with some foam ear plugs. Because it's only in my right ear as well and I did notice the surefire plugs fit better in my left ear than my right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, JCalleja91 said: See this is the thing.. nothing sounds loud, I don't have any ringing in the ears immediately after. It's like.. After a few hours I start to get it, stays for a day or so then goes. I'll have a play with some foam ear plugs. Because it's only in my right ear as well and I did notice the surefire plugs fit better in my left ear than my right. Maybe not shooting related, a visit to the GP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: Maybe not shooting related, a visit to the GP ? I'll add it to the list of things to see them about 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Ringing in my ears/ tinnitus is constant and classed as industrial deafness after 40 years in industry. Can’t hear the washing machine ping but can hear the central heating boiler fire up at 6:30 from upstairs. Recently went over from peltor electronic defenders to CENS in ear devices and they’re great for out in the field but at the range they’re too loud next to brakes etc even on range settings so have gone back to the peltors for the range and add a pair of the little Xmas tree looking plugs as and when needed. Anyone remember the little white dot and the whine on the tv at close down- same as tinnitus!!! . Once you have it that’s it . Buy the best protection, peltor do a model with 3 dots signifying max sound reduction that we wear on the turbine floor/ compressor deck. Arco sell them. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Yeah I've have this twice now and both times it's subsided a day or two after shooting. Want to get on top of it before it becomes permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Think my peltors are the sport model electronic ones . There is another model with bigger ear cups which give 35db protection https://www.arco.co.uk/Web-Taxonomy/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Ear-Plugs-%26-Ear-Defenders/Ear-Defenders/3M-PELTOR-ProTac-Shooter-Overhead-Ear-Defenders/p/PIMM00000000027335 there’s usually an arco shop somewhere nearby that you can try stuff on to make sure it fits and doesn’t mess up with the cheekrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Holy **** they're expensive. I mean with the Sport Tacs and SureFire plugs I'd surely be achieving over 35db reduction. And I certainly don't feel like I'm hearing the bangs.. im leaning more towards the resonance through the cheek as my issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Think the price is for a box of ten so £122 each plus vat . A nice chunk of neoprene rubber on the cheek rest works wonders just need to readjust it a bit . 3mm thick is enough or I have used soft leather from an old sofa before. Now onto a WIEBAD product for the AI . Hoptic pads were rubbish in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Jefferies Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 https://rifleshootermagazine.co.uk/article/peltor-protac-ear-muffs-test-and-review These are the ones I mentioned. They aren’t silly money and to my ears at least, are miles better than the Sport tac. Obviously the fit is important. They seem to be sold by outlets I’ve never heard of. Thankfully, mine arrived without any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCalleja91 Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 In case anyone ever suffers the same as me, i appear to have solved my issue I believe it was either the Muzzle Brake or the inner ear pro. I changed my aggressively ported Muzzle Brake for the Tactical Accuracy International Muzzle Brake that has 90 degree ports, and i used simple expanding foam ear plugs for inner ear protection. No tinnitus or temporary hearing loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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