Blang Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’ve read so much about barrel break procedure you don’t know what to believe. I’ve just got a new tikka tac a1 in 6.5mm creedmoore and was thinking 5 rounds and then clean barrel. Then repeat this process for about 20 rounds with use of a barrel cleaner, any advice welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just get clear in your mind what you will be happy doing, because once you haven’t done something you cant go back and do it. not sure why you need to read more on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blang Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Exactly, it’s like for example some say shoot a single round then clean, then shoot 2/3 rounds and clean again. The rifle has already undergone test rounds through the barrel so I’m thinking why. I am also going for 120gr to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 I only have top quality barrels. Barrel break-in procedure ? Never done it, never will. Never found a problem. Of course you will get views from all directions, some purporting to have metallurgical powers, some claiming magical powers, some skeptics like me. It will very much come down to your choice, it's one of shooting's abiding contentious issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blang Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Thank you everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 From accuracy international manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Richiew said: From accuracy international manual So what ? Maybe they pander to ill informed customers ? "If the user wishes... we would suggest...." Hardly a ringing endorsement of a "necessary" process. Other well regarded barrel manufacturers state clearly that it's an unnecessary activity at best and a waste of barrel life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blang Posted April 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Thank you that’s great info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just passing on info from the manual for the poster to do with what he wants. Personally I got so excited at my first shoot with the rifle that I just had a great day then cleaned it. Ppu ammo was crap tho . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Richiew said: Just passing on info from the manual for the poster to do with what he wants. Personally I got so excited at my first shoot with the rifle that I just had a great day then cleaned it. Ppu ammo was crap tho . Cheers No implied criticism of your post at all, I was just expressing a personal view of the value of such advice (from AI). I could be persuaded that the throat may need special attention in early life as reamer marks may be responsible for some copper deposits. The cleaning regime needs to remove copper. Just clean the rifle thoroughly is my belief, get the copper out of the throat area- no matter what the age of the barrel. Copper removing products work well when given time to act. The occasional bore polish puts the cherry on the cake. Of course, some barrel manufacturers suggest getting all copper out is a waste of time and detrimental to accuracy - requiring fouling shots to be made prior to scoring shots. We get to choose from conflicting advice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Hi there no probs mate , there is so much info out there it’s too confusing and contradictory. I had a great Saturday ages back and won the local club comp so I thought that if I’m shooting Sunday aswell I won’t clean the barrel as it’s shooting great . Big mistake , Sunday was a disaster. Sometimes it takes half an hour other times 2 and a half hours later I’m happy. Using kg 1 mostly but have had clean patches very quickly , but if I wait and go back it’s stil dirty so went back to shooters choice and that worked better. Need to get all carbon out then start on the copper. Trial and error blang and see what’s best for your gun . Suns out so time for a walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 i just dont rag the arse out of them on their first outing, and then crack on with normal shooting and cleaning regime. its nice to know they shoot same POI after full clean so i can hunt with a clean or dirty gun. so i zero, full clean, check zero then just do my normal thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 The only thing a clean patch tells you is that the patch is clean............you need a borescope to tell you the truth about the barrel. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiew Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Re-Pete said: The only thing a clean patch tells you is that the patch is clean............you need a borescope to tell you the truth about the barrel. Pete Too true , be careful of clean patches and then thinking it s clean . Let things soak a while then check again, possibly do another session with the brush you’ll be amazed how much more crap comes out . Got any borescope recommendations??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Richiew said: Too true , be careful of clean patches and then thinking it s clean . Let things soak a while then check again, possibly do another session with the brush you’ll be amazed how much more crap comes out . Got any borescope recommendations??? The only way to know how clean a barrel is is to use a borescope, these are well worth £100 or thereabouts. https://teslong.com/collections/rifle-borescopes Brian at Fox Firearms sells them, the image it sends to either my iPhone or iPad is as good as my proper £1000 Hawkeye borescope and it will record it all in HD. If your serious about your shooting you should have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Teslong +1......easy to keep a photo record with it, too. My 223 after a clean. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattnall Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 No one can prove if a run-in/break-in procedure will make it last longer, clean easier or even shoot better. One barrel maker in the states I spoke to said, "shoot it until your finger bleeds then shoot some more and put it away". What will make it shoot worse is lying on the firing point wondering if you did the correct break-in procedure or not when you should be wondering about the marksmanship principles. In other words do what you think is right, whatever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mattnall said: No one can prove if a run-in/break-in procedure will make it last longer, clean easier or even shoot better. One barrel maker in the states I spoke to said, "shoot it until your finger bleeds then shoot some more and put it away". What will make it shoot worse is lying on the firing point wondering if you did the correct break-in procedure or not when you should be wondering about the marksmanship principles. In other words do what you think is right, whatever that is. a hearty plus one to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 01 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Mattnall's comment is spot on. If you didn't follow the barrel break-in procedure and for any reason your rifle isn't shooting as well as you would like, you will always think "What if?" You won't be able to prove it one way or the other, of course, but following the correct break-in procedure will give you peace of mind. Otherwise, you may find yourself wondering, for years afterwards, if you undermined your barrel's performance by being too hasty at the outset, and not taking the time to follow the procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 And unless you bolt the thing down to a block of concrete on the firing point, how can you be absolutely certain you're not having a bad day yourself? There are so many variables in this game it's impossible to cater for all of them all the time...... just shoot, and then shoot some more. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Are there any advantages/disadvantages between the flexible and rigid version of that borescope? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 My suggestion is to get the rigid WiFi version and just use your phone as the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 1:38 AM, Chris-NZ said: My suggestion is to get the rigid WiFi version and just use your phone as the screen. That is what I was thinking of too, but wondered if there were any known advantages/disadvantages between rigid or flex versions. Flex can deal with longer barrels and would be easier to stow but would rigid be easier to control in the barrel and more durable/long lasting etc. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 A comment about durability- I have sitting on the back of the bench a dead Lyman borecam. A wire has clearly broken just out of the cam tube so it's basically a write-off as no spares available. I was very gentle with it, as with all important cables, but this one did little mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronWilson Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 I’ve never personally bothered to break in CHF barrels, they’ve already been pummelled by hammers millions of times during their manufacture - if there’s an imperfection after that ordeal then no barrel break-in procedure is going to fix that. Thats my rationale, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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