nCognitos Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 We all have out priorities and you don't need to be rich to shoot at Silverstone, £1k for a gun and £550 for membership, then it's just ammo and the £10 a time entry fee for the competitions. I don't think this is a rich vs poor issue, if it something you really want to do, well then Silverstone provides the venue and opportunity. Beats my usual weekend, eight people to one lane at Bisley and hanging about for your turn while the bloke who is supposed to be shooting is digging around his bag for his lucky turnip or whatever. There are some people who will use the facility and a lot who will not, it's just nice to have the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 Rhudson, I own a shooting range as a commercial business, be it a small 50m one in CZ . This would be my suggestions. 1. Listen to Dave T, he knows of what he speaks. 2. Do not form a club - , keep it strictly commercial. I cannot stress this enough. 3. Look for stable and multiple income streams - Police bookings being an excellent one - ask what they want, - vehicle access, 90 or 180 degree arc of fire if possible? This is one of my stable income streams. 4. Try to get away from fixed firing point / prone position only - this opens the way to PRS style competition. This would be a BIG money earner for you if are in a central location in the country and can provide ranges out to 700m. People want to do this sport but there is nothing located central in the country for easy access / travel. If you could do this it would be the golden goose. 5. If you are going to the British Shooting Show in February ( presuming it will run) stop by for a chat and coffee at our stand -Czech Tactical Pursuits. Good luck with your venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condition1 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hi, I’ve just posted a question about bisley. But to answer your question yes I’m looking for somewhere to shoot at longer ranges there are a few of us stuck at 100m now. 700 would be great 1k even better. somewhere I could pay and play at 700 without being a member or needing an scc and all that entails probation etc would be what I wanted. no idea if that’s possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, Condition1 said: Hi, I’ve just posted a question about bisley. But to answer your question yes I’m looking for somewhere to shoot at longer ranges there are a few of us stuck at 100m now. 700 would be great 1k even better. somewhere I could pay and play at 700 without being a member or needing an scc and all that entails probation etc would be what I wanted. no idea if that’s possible The point of the SCC is to provide an approved 'passport' for shooters wishing to shoot away from their club ranges. I would be surprised if a commercial range would just let someone with an FAC rock up and start shooting without some competence checks. Your location is not identified, where are you based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: The point of the SCC is to provide an approved 'passport' for shooters wishing to shoot away from their club ranges. I would be surprised if a commercial range would just let someone with an FAC rock up and start shooting without some competence checks. Your location is not identified, where are you based? ⬆️ this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condition1 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: The point of the SCC is to provide an approved 'passport' for shooters wishing to shoot away from their club ranges. I would be surprised if a commercial range would just let someone with an FAC rock up and start shooting without some competence checks. Your location is not identified, where are you based? Doncaster my club is no long nra affiliated so I can no longer shoot at strensall where we used to with a scc. however had a few replies to my question it looks like joining the nra is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Also when you do your NRA assessment for the SCC it is valid for 4 or 5 yrs as opposed to the standard yearly as an affiliated club member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condition1 Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 That’s great. As to the ops question a more local option I could use occasionally would be right up my street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinC Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 Sir I realize as a commercial operation you will aim at the largest market and that in the UK is the Fun/leisure shooters, but don't ignore that there is a serious need from serious match target shooters. My wife and I, shoot ISSF 300 metre at Bisley, in the "shed" on the electronic targets. The NRA is limiting use each year and it is now so little its not worth the trips to Bisley, this year we have been offered 5 half days! We also used to shoot abroad regularly, Boris ended that by negotiating out European Firearms Passes (EFP's) from the deal, and now Covid is almost ending that route! We have our sport dissapearing from in front of us, and we are sat on many thousands of £'s of specialised tack drivers! If you could put in a 300 meter range, with electronic targets, and Indoor firing points, basically a version of the "Bisley Shed"we would gladly make the trek from Norfolk on a monthly basis to shoot, we book two hour slots at Bisley each, and I know other 300 mt shooters also who would. I write the 300 mt articles in the NRA Journal for any one who wishes to know more. Best of Luck, and have Fun Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty_seven Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 Brilliant idea, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 RobinC, are the 300yd electronic targets at the other end of Century not suitable? Two of us had the whole 300yd firing line to ourselves yesterday morning......... We normally go roughly once a fortnight, weather permitting. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 Not sure if its the weather or Covid but Bisley seems quiet at the moment . I was there Saturday AM and was the only person shooting 900Yards, I then went to see some friends who were shooting on century and there only seemed to be about 10 people shooting 600yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 Same thing Friday morning......my partner and I had the 300yd firing line to ourselves, and conditions were near perfect.....warm sun towards lunchtime, and little or no wind. The NRASC had a session running at 600 yds, about 10-15 bods, and there were a few at 200, and that was it. Even the Lord Roberts cafe was empty at lunchtime. Doesn't bode well... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Re-Pete said: Doesn't bode well... It's the winter season, nothing unexpected for a weekday at Bisley in February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinC Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Yes Pete, That's what we plan to do to supplement our 300 mt shooting this year as the NRA has shafted us on dates and availability of the 300 shed, with very little usage. The electronics on range 19 are switchable to 300 mt ten ring scoring, and two of them are the same Kongsbergs that we have in the shed. I think the difference between 300 yds and metres is almost irrelevent, the scores will only differ if people are close to the lines, so over a 60 shot match course, the answer is hit the middle and the scores are the same! We are soft old wimps, don't do cold and wet, and our kit is very expensive to expose to the elements, but we have discussed with the Range Office and they can arrange Gazebos' so we can get some cover. 300mt FP's are flat and carpeted, but beggars can't be choosers, so grass and rough it will be! A bonus, the wind is easier down that end than range 10! Most of us travel, wife and I are Norfolk, and we are planning some Sat afternoon/Sunday mornings this year with a group of friends, so if you see us, come and have a chat. Have Fun Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think the whole layout of Century range is counterproductive. The position of the 300M shed restricts what other distances can be used because of the 8 lane rule per 100yds, then they placed the 600yd electronics slap bang in the middle of Century which means anyone shooting 300 needs 24 spare lanes between them and the 600 electronics. The whole layout of electronics needs to be reviewed IMHO and the siting of the 300m shed has a legacy which impacts on the rest of the range unfortunately. They have 108 lanes available, but most days they can't allow users to book more than two distances. Invariably the range ends up being empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinC Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Yes Century is very problematic, but the major problem with the 300 mt shed is not just its position as far as other century ranges, its is after all hardly ever used, we have just five half days this year! That's because in its safety area, is the high tower sporting clay stand, which just happens to make the NRA mega money compared to any other target range! So when that is in use everything else stops, why there are very few dates in the shed, the NRA makes too much money from that stand from corporate bookings to give fair and equal usage! Prior to that stand being built, we had regular use of the 300mt shed, built in the 1980's, and it did not impact on the rest of Century. Even when we do shoot in the 300mt shed we are continually showered with shot from the main clays stands on the left, totally ignored by the NRA, I suppose it will take a serious eye injury and a law suit to change that, and then will likely be the 300 mt that gets shut! Yes please, a new 300 mt shed in a location that allows full access to any NRA member any time, not 5 half days, which is all we have this year, as at the moment the NRA are heading towards destroying a long standing International discipline! Have Fun Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 It seems that every discipline except TR takes second, third or lower place. A shame as it is some of those disciplines that keeps Bisley afloat outside of TR season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 The NRA is run by TR shooters for TR shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Well having tried both standard TR and 300m briefly with a 308, I'd have said that 300m shooting definitely trumps standard TR when it comes to required skill level...... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinC Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, John MH said: The NRA is run by TR shooters for TR shooters. Maybe some years back, but not so now, its now commercial income from corporate clay bookings that rules the NRA (NSC) range planning. TR shooters would also like to use the shed as well, especially in the winter, the problem is the sporting game clay stands in the woods behind range 10 and 11, and the fact the NRA makes big income from the corporate bookings on them, one corporate booking is vastly more (thousands of £'s) , than even a full Century, and its not just the Shed, the stands behind Range 10 and 11 are also in the safety area of 500 yds and 600yds at that end of Century, why the 600 yd electronics are so far down the range. Have Fun Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Is Cottesloe open now on Saturdays? I'm sure it used to be closed? (but thinking about it I now understand why you cant shot there without a "guide". I guess they dont want you wondering out onto the Century/Stix Edited February 15, 2022 by martin_b added afterthought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Very surreal at Bisley the morning, just me Shooting Olympic trap at 9am and not another shooter on the camp.. All the ranges closed as the power is still out. Fortunately the NCSS has a generator., hopefullly the power will be back soon.. but Id phone if youre not local and shooting tomoroow, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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