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6 hours ago, saddler said:

NOPE
spiral staircasers at Enfield stole the design from Sterling!
.....there can be only one....

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20-rd & 40-rd magazines
direct piston design
can be fired with stock closed
....the rifle Stoner designed to get around the faults of his AR-15

Yep, that's a beauty. You can see the similarities when you see the internals - cut 'n paste job. 

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...so a slightly cynical recap, the Army wanted (or had inflicted on them?) the need for a new rifle in 5.56.

Had to be British so we designed the Mk.1 SA80 that did not work very well, so we employed the Germans (H&K) to fix it for more than the cost of buying all new Diemaco's that worked?

Your tax ££ working for you? 😉

 

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2 hours ago, terryh said:

...so a slightly cynical recap, the Army wanted (or had inflicted on them?) the need for a new rifle in 5.56.

Had to be British so we designed the Mk.1 SA80 that did not work very well, so we employed the Germans (H&K) to fix it for more than the cost of buying all new Diemaco's that worked?

Your tax ££ working for you? 😉

 

There's a little more to the H&K connection. BAE owned H&K between 1999-2002, so work was done by H&K for Enfield.

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9 hours ago, SchmidtP3 said:

Yep, that's a beauty. You can see the similarities when you see the internals - cut 'n paste job. 

Absolutely - when stripped, the internals look almost interchangeable  - first AR180 I had a chance to take apart was ex-IRA (I can’t find a sandbag emoji!)   - they had better procurement than us!

 

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At the time of its availability the AR18/180 was regarded as the "poor mans M16".... now all the Tacticool Beardsters want a Stoner locking, short stroke piston model....

 

It does seem that we have reached the end of Firearms design.

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18 hours ago, SchmidtP3 said:

There's a little more to the H&K connection. BAE owned H&K between 1999-2002, so work was done by H&K for Enfield.

Thank you for info, but to me H&K will be forever.............

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