Bob90 Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Look for real experience opinions on best thermal spotter going to use it for foxing looking to spend upto roughly £1500 been looking at pulsar axion xm30 Quantum xd50s Quantum hd19s all on eBay Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 For less than £1500 I'd buy a new Pulsar Axion XM30S That way you get a full 3 year warranty. Try Blackwood Outdoors - speak nicely to Ian and you may get a bit of discount The XD50s and HD19S are old models, long discontinued so spares/repair could be a major issue Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Look out for a cheap Pulsar Helion XQ38F, they're about the benchmark for performance/cost, or an older Quantum XQ50 or XQ38. The HD units on ebay are fairly long in the tooth now, both will be 25 micron units - and are pretty expensive for what they are. I know of a couple of XQ50s sold in the last few months for £900-1000 which are far superior, I'd put feelers out on the various foxing etc pages on bookface, see if anyone's looking to upgrade etc Lots of similar questions here https://nightvisionforumuk.com (hope external links are ok?!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 ^^ Listen to Bruce/Phoenix, knows more than most by a country mile when it comes to thermal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 I wouldn't buy a pulsar axion xm30s, i looked through an axion xm30 recently and if it's the same i thought the field of view was crap, would rather have my quantum lite xq30v any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1562 Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 The only difference between the xm30/xm30s is the quality of the screen/picture clarity in the "s". Same field of view. Horses for courses......I use my xm30s for stalking and foxing.....love it ! Regards, Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob90 Posted May 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 What’s difference between helion xp and Xq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 XPs have 640x480 pixel sensors, XQs have 384x288s. XPs have lower base mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seprim Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Has anyone considered nitesite, DDOptics, Liemke or others ? Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Wasn't aware Nitesite made thermal? as for DDO and Liemke, don't think either are readily available/marketed in the UK atm, Liemke were at the BSS but cant say I've seen/heard of them much otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinePMI Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/25/2020 at 2:57 PM, GT3_richy said: XPs have 640x480 pixel sensors, XQs have 384x288s. XPs have lower base mag. Just an FYI, the Thermions and Trails are being discontinued, and being replaced by the Thermion 2 and Trail 2 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, MarinePMI said: Just an FYI, the Thermions and Trails are being discontinued, and being replaced by the Thermion 2 and Trail 2 this year. Guy is after a spotter, the above are scopes. But the same applies to the Helion spotters, Helion 2 is out (well, the XP50 at least) and in stock already in the UK, havent seen anything about the 38s or scope releases yet but shouldnt have thought the Helion 38s can be far away, as they must sell them by the boat load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annieclover Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 On 5/25/2020 at 2:15 AM, Bob57 said: I wouldn't buy a pulsar axion xm30s, i looked through an axion xm30 recently and if it's the same i thought the field of view was crap, would rather have my quantum lite xq30v any day. My father owns an $800 pair of Leica binoculars. These are 90% as good. The clarity at 12x is astonishing, I can count blades of grass at 200 yards. I am completely blown away by the fact that you can get a sturdy, near-perfect pair of binoculars for under $50 these days. Simply amazing. There is no chance that these will disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annieclover Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 On 5/24/2020 at 7:05 PM, phoenix said: For less than £1500 I'd buy a new Pulsar Axion XM30S That way you get a full 3 year warranty. Try Blackwood Outdoors - speak nicely to Ian and you may get a bit of discount The XD50s and HD19S are old models, long discontinued so spares/repair could be a major issue Cheers Bruce Thanks for the honest review, We are also thinking to buy this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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