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Look for real experience opinions on best thermal spotter 

going to use it for foxing 

looking to spend upto roughly £1500 

been looking at 

pulsar axion xm30

Quantum xd50s

Quantum hd19s

all on eBay 

Thanks in advance

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For less than £1500 I'd buy a new Pulsar Axion XM30S 

That way you get a full 3 year warranty.

Try Blackwood Outdoors - speak nicely to Ian and you may get a bit of discount

The XD50s and HD19S are old models, long discontinued so spares/repair could be a major issue

 

Cheers

 

Bruce

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Look out for a cheap Pulsar Helion XQ38F, they're about the benchmark for performance/cost, or an older Quantum XQ50 or XQ38.

The HD units on ebay are fairly long in the tooth now, both will be 25 micron units - and are pretty expensive for what they are. I know of a couple of XQ50s sold in the last few months for £900-1000 which are far superior, I'd put feelers out on the various foxing etc pages on bookface, see if anyone's looking to upgrade etc

Lots of similar questions here https://nightvisionforumuk.com (hope external links are ok?!).

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^^ Listen to Bruce/Phoenix, knows more than most by a country mile when it comes to thermal!

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I wouldn't buy a pulsar axion xm30s, i looked through an axion xm30 recently and if it's the same i thought the field of view was crap, would rather have my quantum lite xq30v any day.

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The only difference between the xm30/xm30s is the quality of the screen/picture clarity in the "s". Same field of view.

Horses for courses......I use my xm30s for stalking and foxing.....love it !

Regards, Rob.

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XPs have 640x480 pixel sensors, XQs have 384x288s. XPs have lower base mag.

 

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Has anyone considered nitesite, DDOptics, Liemke or others ?

Andrew

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Wasn't aware Nitesite made thermal? as for DDO and Liemke, don't think either are readily available/marketed in the UK atm, Liemke were at the BSS but cant say I've seen/heard of them much otherwise.

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On 5/25/2020 at 2:57 PM, GT3_richy said:

XPs have 640x480 pixel sensors, XQs have 384x288s. XPs have lower base mag.

 

Just an FYI, the Thermions and Trails are being discontinued, and being replaced by the Thermion 2 and Trail 2 this year.

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5 minutes ago, MarinePMI said:

Just an FYI, the Thermions and Trails are being discontinued, and being replaced by the Thermion 2 and Trail 2 this year.

Guy is after a spotter, the above are scopes. But the same applies to the Helion spotters, Helion 2 is out (well, the XP50 at least) and in stock already in the UK, havent seen anything about the 38s or scope releases yet but shouldnt have thought the Helion 38s can be far away, as they must sell them by the boat load.

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