Popgun Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hi all i have a Anschutz 1417 with a Bushnell Legend 4.5-14 x44 HD SF. Up to now i have used a home brew NV with it & its excellent although bulky & takes a bit of time assembling & take down in the dark. I have a new Pard 007 & the optics are poor & grainy but its easy to set-up & also used as a spotter. So the question is, what reasonably priced scope will be better in your opinion tia Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 The Bushnell Legend is usually quite good with NV add-ons - as you found with your home brew NV. If you're not getting a good image with the PARD, then I suspect you don't have it set up properly. This is the recommended procedure: 1. Before attaching the add-on, ensure the reticle on the Bushnell is focussed for your eye, and then adjust the dioptre on the PARD so that the menu text is focussed for your eye. There should be a small screw that stops the dioptre ring from moving 2. Attach the PARD, switch it on, look at the display, and then, using the lens focus control on the underside of the PARD, bring the scope reticle into focus on the screen. 3. Look at the target and adjust the side focus on the scope to bring the target into focus on the screen 4. When you change to NV mode and use the IR illuminator, the side focus will need to be adjusted for the different wavelength of light passing through the scope For the brightest image, have the IR illuminator set at IR3 (full power) and the illuminator lens fully extended (spot) Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Thanks Bruce, done all that. Home brew clear 007 grainy, Im out this evening on the bunnies, so will check settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 went out last night, pix qual no better but found the set-up is very "range" critical" to get a better pix, but still very grainy. Still not convinced with the 007, i will be out tonight with the home brew. I have now got the 007 set-up on a MTC Genesis 3-9 x 40 fixed focus, just to see is the clarity is any better , if so i will adjust out to 60m When i bought the rifle it had a Hawke Rimfire scope, that struggled at 70m in 1/2 light, so its got a new owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Well been out this evening with the home brew, i did take the 007 on a MTC Genisis 3-9 x 40 just to try, i know it a cheap scope but results even @ 30m were poor. The home brew is far clearer, i could see leaves moving on trees @ 50m , the only constraint was IR as my best IR pill, has gone duff, so on reduced power but it still exceeded the 007 for clarity. Very disappointing & im not going to spend even more £s on another scope just to see if the 007 can be improved Oh i got 3 rabbits @ 50,60 & 70m with the home brew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 The 007's are excellent units, you have either not set it up correctly or it is faulty and needs to go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 well im going to give it another go, sans SD Card, the record button cost me 5 bunnies last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillair1 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hi just wondering have you tried the pard with additional IR like aT20 unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, stillair1 said: Hi just wondering have you tried the pard with additional IR like aT20 unit. The PARD uses an HD sensor that requires much more IR than a T20 can produce. The on board IR on the PARD is much much more powerful than any LED based IR illuminator. Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 5:12 PM, Popgun said: Thanks Bruce, done all that. Home brew clear 007 grainy, Im out this evening on the bunnies, so will check settings Go into the menu and check the EV exposure setting. it is normally 0.0, but increasing the number makes the camera more sensitive, but the image noisier, reducing the number makes the camera less sensitive but the image less noisy. Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushytail Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 I had the same with my Pard using the onboard IR & was ready to bin it, I them tried it with a Sirius IR laser & wow, what a difference. I'm using it with a Hawke WA scope BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 That torch is seriously over priced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Not if it does what you want - and it will. I have one I use with a PARD NV008 and it does give a big improvement in clarity, particularly at longer ranges. Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 The first 2 outings with the 007, i really struggled with it, mainly the picture reproduction, my home brew is very clear optics & the kevgun pill in the T38 + youkon doubler was exceptional.Some of the trouble was also fiddling with the record button, i have never recorded & really dont need or want too BUT its there init, it cost me about 5 bunnies all told.Over the w/e i had advertised the 007 i had only had it a week from new, but thought i would give it one more chance, as the battery life is very good, the battery life on the HB is exceptional but the torch used a lot of power as its "over clocked" pill.The 007 with IR only consumes much the same as the T38 & its much easier to set-up & fewer bits, just the 007 unit & range finder.So it has had a reprieve ( for now )Got 2 this evening at approx 50 & 70mOh i have fitted a green 37mm filter, this much improves the loss of vision due to light from the uniteBay item number:382794565802 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I thought these pards were ment to be as good as a drone Pro sure don't sound like it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 OK, so you thought a £400 add-on would be as good as a £2400 digital scope? The 007 is the best "bang for your buck" NV add-on available, but it's not a Drone Pro Popgun is clearly not happy with his 007, but In have to say, that given how many 007s have been sold, he's very much in the minority. Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulf Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Hi I also have a 007 which i use on my Sako 85 in 223 for a bit of charlie watching, i found the same on full mag (3.5) on the unit so keep it at 2X the parallax has to be kept at no more than 40yds (Pard recomends) it was still a touch grainy and am now using a sniper hog 66 IR unit with it, this is so much better and of course not using the 007 IR the battery lasts much much longer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Update i now have a MTC Mamba Lite 3-12 x 42 sf & the picture quality is so much better than with the Legend 4.5-16 x 44 sf hd. Downside is the range finder flashing is far less bright than with the Bushy Bushy Legend https://studio.youtube.com/video/68lMgOsn9kU/edit Mamba https://studio.youtube.com/video/JnEW8vQ01Ek/edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpot Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 New to the site but I have a bit of info regarding the 007 and is that it seems the better the scope, the worse the performance because of the scope coating. I cannot verify this aspect as I do not own one but have heard from aomeone who did have one. I am waiting for my rfd to get some in then we are going to test them with a few differentt scopes to see if performance is enhanced in some scopes over others. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 There's a couple of guys on the NV forums that have done quite an extensive test on various scopes using the pard 007, it has yet to be published but hopefully it will soon. Everything I have read seems to suggest the Hawke, MTC , Delta and Falcon range of scopes give the best performance. I have recently tried my 007 on a Nikon Fiieldmaster with OK but not great results. Interesting someone also put a video up using a March 5-50x56 with a different digital add on and the result were amazing. I look forward to what you find out and please post the results on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Also work well on Sightron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 10/16/2019 at 11:35 PM, Montey said: I thought these pards were ment to be as good as a drone Pro sure don't sound like it!! Haha who told you that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 I have a March Scope and want to know if any one has tried the pard behind one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Elwood said: There's a couple of guys on the NV forums that have done quite an extensive test on various scopes using the pard 007, it has yet to be published but hopefully it will soon. Everything I have read seems to suggest the Hawke, MTC , Delta and Falcon range of scopes give the best performance. I have recently tried my 007 on a Nikon Fiieldmaster with OK but not great results. Interesting someone also put a video up using a March 5-50x56 with a different digital add on and the result were amazing. I look forward to what you find out and please post the results on here. Was that me Elwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, Scotch_egg said: I have a March Scope and want to know if any one has tried the pard behind one. Not a pard but a vulpine mk3 . Slightly dodgy just using my phone but hopefully you get the idea . There are 4 or 5 videos on my channel . Mag was 15x and backed it off to 7x , the stump is 200 yards . Other vids shows a badger that appeared , a badger at 400 yards or so (cant quite remember) and a sheep at 500 yards . Unfortunately it looks like i may need to now sell the atn 4k to put towards another March 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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