The 'Paradox Gun' is reborn - in Russia

[Laurie]

There's nothing new under the sun in firearms they say ..... and the Russians have reinvented the British 19th Century 'Paradox' form (smoothbore barrel with the last few inches before the muzzle rifled). Of course, anything's possible when it is driven by suitably wacky firearms laws.

 

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/05/24/new-russian-cartridge-366-magnum/

[Akeld]

Didn't Dave Theobald (Theoben) do this with an FX air rifle, the last few inches was externally pressed and not cut.  There was talk of using it on RF as well but don't think anything came of it

[Aggy]

Fx airguns do it on many of their rifles

[baldie]

He did it some time before FX airguns appeared, on several theoben prototypes. It worked exceptionally well apparently

[brown dog]

Very interesting  - I see they also tried a Lancaster oval bore version; I suspect that the Lancaster version would, arguably, qualify as smoothbore in UK law (?)

[Desmond]

Bit of a necromantic bump here... But would this be considered legal here?

 

Or failing that, Could a 24" .223 unrifled-barrel make an AR15 considered a S1-Semi Automatic shotgun?

[AnthonyR]

It was Ben Taylor (the Ben in Theoben) who designed the smooth twist barrel

[brown dog]

6 hours ago, Desmond said:

Could a 24" .223 unrifled-barrel make an AR15 considered a S1-Semi Automatic shotgun?

🤔 I'd have thought so.

[Desmond]

55 minutes ago, brown dog said:

🤔 I'd have thought so.

Hmm... Surely Baldie or someone will have had a request of build one of these before 🤔

[Dellboy]

8 hours ago, Desmond said:

Bit of a necromantic bump here... But would this be considered legal here?

 

Or failing that, Could a 24" .223 unrifled-barrel make an AR15 considered a S1-Semi Automatic shotgun?

im trying to think why you would want a 223 semi auto shotgun  (even though i think i might ) .  100 yard CSR maybe ??

 

[Aggy]

Regardless of barrel design if it fires a bullet then it’s a rile ,shot +shot gun 

[Dellboy]

9 minutes ago, Aggy said:

Regardless of barrel design if it fires a bullet then it’s a rile ,shot +shot gun 

more like a solid slug shotgun though   if no one rifles the barrel

 

[Desmond]

On 1/16/2021 at 9:32 PM, Dellboy said:

im trying to think why you would want a 223 semi auto shotgun  (even though i think i might ) .  100 yard CSR maybe ??

 

Good for training within 50yds, i.e a lot of "tactical" disciplines.

 

Hopefully someone who knows a bit more will see this thread and chime in, I can't seem to get any idea from around the internet regarding it's legality. Legal definition of a shotgun doesn't seem to mention the projectiles, and even so, FAC shotguns can be given with slugs?