Elliott Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Go on, then.. What do you think is the best varminting calibre for UK vermin species? Fox size and under. I have 223, 204 and 22 Hornet. Mine would be a toss up between 204 Ruger and 22 Hornet. 22 Hornet upto 300 yards (<200 yard fox), 204 beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorlander Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Oh dear , guess I`d better start...204 Ruger if you home load and .223 if you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 243,job done,55gr to 100 grain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvet Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 22/250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 .223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 22-250 out in the sticks, .17rem in the garden ?. But there again, the 204!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 .20Tac stupid name great gain. Same as the .20 practical can be formed with a FL die. Having only used mine on fox I haven’t put more than 500 rounds down but the few hundred I have it works dam well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1562 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 22BR for me if you homeload....once the case prep is done it's magic ! If using factory, reckon .223/.243 would be hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 It depends on the type of shooting you do. The 204 works fine for me as a point and shoot rifle for foxes under the lamp and for crows and magpies during the day. If your into 500 yard plus shots you would be better of with something bigger in 6mm or 6.5mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaggletooth Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 God's own calibre............. 222rem.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Its an open ended question really - so . Varmint in my book is anything from rat to rabbit / hare - when needed ! Foxing is technically varmint but different class in my book . So varmint caliber would be something fast frangible 17 rem thru to 20 cals are excellent for normal ranges . But when needed past 400 id personaly go 6mmBR or 6xc 6x47 etc. Soo many to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labrador77 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 My personal favourite is my .220 Swift, I can't say why and no fox will ever know the difference between it and the latest wsmwhizzbangackleyBR. I just like the cartridge, much like my .270. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 I am biased,but .204 out to 300(further,if not shooting against the wind),with 39gr BKs and from there on out,the 6br, shooting either 87 vmax or 105amax. They cover all situations,which in a way is a pity,as I have a slot for a .22br,but can see no advantages,except maybe a little accuracy gain over the .204. If I had to choose,it would be the 6br,which can shoot a huge range of bullet weights very accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader54 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 anything that renders it instantaneously dead at the required range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 22BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Reloader54 said: anything that renders it instantaneously dead at the required range. and that's never going to happen 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 You'll never get unanimity on this one because everyone has their own opinions and preferences. For me, it has to be 22-250 if only because it clears any doubt I have in my mind that it's enough to do the job I've seen too many runners with 17HMR, 204 and 22 Hornet to want to use them. I thought long and hard between 223 and 22-250 but since almost all my shooting is at night where range estimation is difficult, the flatter shooting, higher MV of the 22-250 wins every time Cheers Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Can't agree with you on the 204 with runners Bruce, 39grn blitz kings running fast hammer charlie.sounds like someone needs to get on the right bullet or get some shooting lessons. Agreed about the 17 hmr though, shouldn't be granted for fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader54 Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 17 hours ago, Bob57 said: and that's never going to happen 100% of the time agreed, and using a calibre that's only just "just up to the task" will decrease the odds further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvet Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 I have seen more runners on fox with the 17 Rem than the 22/250. Not a lot but it is less forgiving of less than ideal shot placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 15 hours ago, Bob57 said: Can't agree with you on the 204 with runners Bruce, 39grn blitz kings running fast hammer charlie.sounds like someone needs to get on the right bullet or get some shooting lessons. Agreed about the 17 hmr though, shouldn't be granted for fox. I gave a lot of thought to getting a 204 and then a gamekeeper pal of mine bought a remington 700 in 204, put a GRS stock on it and had it professionally bedded. He is a much better shot than me, but he recently sold the 204 because he could not consistently kill foxes with it. He now has a 22-250 I strongly suspect that the problem was that particular rifle, but once he lost confidence in i,t it had to go Cheers Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarmLR Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Whatever you can shoot accurately irrespective of calibre. CF Calibre is immaterial as long as you can hit at what you're aiming at and it carries sufficient energy downrange. I like .223 for its versatility and economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 5 hours ago, srvet said: I have seen more runners on fox with the 17 Rem than the 22/250. Not a lot but it is less forgiving of less than ideal shot placement. years ago when I used 17rem a lot on fox I had many runners with 25 grn HP, drove me nuts, perfect placement and quite often off they'd go to be found next day. Then I changed to 20grn v max and hardly got a runner, but I've heard the opposite about both bullets from different people, strange things happen!! Then I got a 22-250 and yes that does flatten fox well but still get the odd runner, even with what you'd think perfect shot.wanted a rifle for dedicated n/v so got a 204 Ruger and after now shooting a couple of hundred fox with it so far, I'd say the odd runner is about on par with the 22-250. So we'll allways get the odd runner with whatever cal it's shot with and sometimes however good a placement, just depends on many things!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 5 hours ago, phoenix said: I gave a lot of thought to getting a 204 and then a gamekeeper pal of mine bought a remington 700 in 204, put a GRS stock on it and had it professionally bedded. He is a much better shot than me, but he recently sold the 204 because he could not consistently kill foxes with it. He now has a 22-250 I strongly suspect that the problem was that particular rifle, but once he lost confidence in i,t it had to go Cheers Bruce Hi Bruce, shame your pal didn't get on with his 204, I think you'd have loved it with a drone on top☺and 39 grn blitz kings up the spout. what was he shooting in it? 32grn factory or homeloads? How's he getting on with the 22-250 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted September 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Bob57 said: Hi Bruce, shame your pal didn't get on with his 204, I think you'd have loved it with a drone on top☺and 39 grn blitz kings up the spout. what was he shooting in it? 32grn factory or homeloads? How's he getting on with the 22-250 ? Definitely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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