Guest rogern Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 A friend of mine has been given a S & B (German) 3-12x56 by his father but he does not like the reticle. He has asked me to find out if the reticle can be changed, he wants one with fine crosshairs. Does anyone know if it can be done and if so is it expensive. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hi Rogern, a while back they charged 186,50 Euro + postage for that operation. Send them a mail with the serial Number of the scope. service@schmidt-bender.de I presume you meant 2.5-10X56 or 3-12x50 S&B You might as well get them to fit the precison hunter turret at 75 Euro a go. I was always wanting to get them on my scope. regards edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 The contact info is here, http://www.schmidt-bender.de/asp/en_default.asp I would suggest the no 9 reticle as a good all rounder with fine centre crosshairs, The varmint one is too fine for most applications in this country ( I have had one), the no 9 is very useable both on paper and on live game. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 The No. 8varmint wouldn't work well with only 10 or 12 mag, it's made for the 16mag and being 1st focal plane its nice and fine even at 16 mag. At 4 mag it's a hair. But the holdover dots are great. I even use that reticule in my 4-16x50 for lamping, for that it's ok but not perfect. Wasn't the No. 9 designed for charging dangerous game? Would be a bit clusterd for my liking. What about the bog standard No. 7 ? edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 The No. 8varmint wouldn't work well with only 10 or 12 mag, it's made for the 16mag and being 1st focal plane its nice and fine even at 16 mag. At 4 mag it's a hair. But the holdover dots are great. I even use that reticule in my 4-16x50 for lamping, for that it's ok but not perfect. Wasn't the No. 9 designed for charging dangerous game? Would be a bit clusterd for my liking. What about the bog standard No. 7 ? edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 No 7 is too thick for what he wants, the no 9 has nothing to do with dangerous game, look at the reticles on offer and the coverage at 100 mtrs you may understand better. I have a number of S&B ( 8) scopes with 7,9, varmint, mildot, and a specially made reticle, so I am not guessing here.! Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Redfox I know what you mean, and i was looking at that reticule before. Would be nice and fine, but that ring looks like something we had on the anti-aircraft sights in the army. Especially when the light gets bad the ring would possibly annoy me. I've looked through a No. 9 but never shot with one. Rogern, In the past I had the same problem with a 8x56 with a german No.1 . I sold the scope and bought another second hand one with a No. 4 reticule. Job done, no money lost. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I shoot both night and day with the 9 and it works fine, other than the mildot and varmint reticles it is the thinnest of them all. I have it in a 4-16x50 on a 222 and the same on a 270, for deer stalking. It is a pity they dont do a plex reticle that is fine as well, the no7 ( no 4 in swarovski) is ok but covers up .7 of an inch at 100 m which is a lot on a target but not on a deer, the centre of the no 9 covers up .3 of an inch les than half that of the 7. The trouble with the no6 special varmint one is that at night you cant see it, its intended for groundhogs at 3-600 yds in daylight, Ive had one!, thats how I ended up with a special reticle which covers 1/8th inch at 100 yds with the centre cross hairs, but is not strong enough for anything more than 22 cf rifles and to have one made on glass was a bit too expensive at the time. Hope you both find reticles that suit you, its a beggar when they are just not quite what you want. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I found a good compromise for my deer rifle, the 3-12x50 Zenith FD7 which has 0.24" cover that is much finer than No.4, and when i go through heavy cover with scope turned down i can throw the dot on. The only thing I'd like on the zenith would be turrets of the precision hunter. Have you used them before? Are they worth it? What annoyed me years back with the german post was trying to holdover on a fox looking at me at 300yds. The post covered the fox. Now I got used to the varmint reticule on the 4-16 and hardly ever turn it lower than 8 mag. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Sorry Edi missed your reply, yes the turrets are good and you can now buy as an after market fit for S&B scopes look on the USA website it is much more user friendly than the German one. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Sorry Edi missed your reply, yes the turrets are good and you can now buy as an after market fit for S&B scopes look on the USA website it is much more user friendly than the German one.Redfox Redfox, in the meantime I had sent off a 3-12x50 and got the turrets changed. Price was around 200Euro. I'm really happy with them but the No. 7 reticule on that scope is a bit thick for some things. Although for the quick shot at low mag its ok. Head shot a running Sika last Saturday on a driven shoot. (fluke?) I'll get my zenith's turrets changed next. The flashdot 7 is some great reticule, just right. Those turrets also work great now with mod on, mod off settings. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Glad you got sorted, I am currently mulling over whether to change the stock on my T3 6.5x55, which is a good and accurate shooter but I hate the stock, or sell it and go for the T3 Supervarmint/ Tactical, the Supervarmint seems to be the best option if I go that way, although a decent Laminated stock would be far cheaper, just seems no one inlets for the T3. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Glad you got sorted, I am currently mulling over whether to change the stock on my T3 6.5x55, which is a good and accurate shooter but I hate the stock, or sell it and go for the T3 Supervarmint/ Tactical, the Supervarmint seems to be the best option if I go that way, although a decent Laminated stock would be far cheaper, just seems no one inlets for the T3.Redfox joel does redfox. but you have to remerememberber a laminated stock is going to weigh about 3lb give or take a bit, ATB Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Glad you got sorted, I am currently mulling over whether to change the stock on my T3 6.5x55, which is a good and accurate shooter but I hate the stock, or sell it and go for the T3 Supervarmint/ Tactical, the Supervarmint seems to be the best option if I go that way, although a decent Laminated stock would be far cheaper, just seems no one inlets for the T3.Redfox Nothing more satisfying than a stock that fits, or is made to fit for purpose. One way is the no risk approach. Put your existing stock aside and find a walnut or laminated battered up stock. (I'm repeating myself) Then enjoy a day in the workshop making this stock fit your stature and style. Easy to shape wood pieces or micro balloons can be added, weight can be reduced by drilling holes and in the end all can be covered by a thin layer of glass and epoxy. I even milled out all the corners of my inlet and filled them with roving carbon fibre to create a structure that leads the stress into the stock. Kal can paint, and in the end you have just what you want. (and cheap) edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thanks for the info lads, I didnt realise Joel did for the tikka and Edi I have done a few stocks in the past and as you say when painted up they look grand. The problem is that it has the "american straight stock" and for a lot of the shooting I do its a pain particularly with an 8x56 scope on, even though its on, I think medium mounts, certainly not high ones. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rogern Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thread nicely highjacked Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thread nicely highjacked Cheers Guilty, is your problem solved? edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yes guilty too, but hijacking is fun and we are basically dedicated wafflers. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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