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I spend a lot of money with gun mart and shooting sports.

 

I will be asking questions when my man rings next time.

 

There is no way I,m going to support a magazine that accepts articles from this man.

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agreed and the other publishers too. I also think there is milage in sending well written simple letters to the editor/publisher of each magazine.

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Just a shame we can't persuade the mainstream press from quoting him as a 'Fireams expert and uk shooting spokesman'

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After some 60+years of being involved in UK shooting across a fair range (military excepted) ,I wonder if any one person could perfectly represent all the various factions ? The precedents are not very good,with the divisions within 'shooting sports' often not even showing mutual respect,let alone solidarity. We have probably suffered disproportionally because of this internal squabbling.It goes on,'jokingly'-until it isn't.

I have read a fair bit of MIke Yardley's writing.Most seems to me unobjectionable, informed and informative-he is not alone in that,and there are many that are inferior in content and presentation.

 

If indeed he has a dozen or so books,and over 1000 articles etc,it's not a bad basis for having some status,or a 'name' that the media turn too. My private view (hitherto) is that we could do a lot worse.That is not the same as saying I'd agree 100% on everything he says.Can you actually think of any spokesperson that you would agree with 100% on all shooting matters,technical and -more critically -on a wider societal stage. And could be trusted there,to persuade critics to accept shooting's cause?

 

I also think it likely that some of his/anyone's 'Facebook' or "Twitter' remarks need to be considered in that context-perhaps a brief reply to a legitimate,but not very well informed question,together with a decision not to elaborate further on the point,in that context. I don't know,and won't be alone there. His general position statements seem fair enough...and seem tolerant,though he has some preferences (moderate game bags,eg).The "tweed" /"toff" accusations of some seem unfounded,and perhaps speak to the critics hang ups more than a fair comment on him-or anyone. Either way, a dubious tactic.

 

Whatever.No one person can speak comprehensively for all of us-BASC is perhaps more representative,and crucially increasingly experienced in presenting a reasoned,well informed case. But there are and should be others (NRA?)...

 

I saw an interesting,and rather touching,video on Accurate Shooter a couple of days ago-The US army sniper school were honouring a WW11 veteran sniper,around 80-90 years old with the highly regarded,black cap- and a replica of his Springfield rifle. He also got to shoot first time ever at 1000y,and had 3/3 good hits on an IPSC target. Great stuff. Afterwards the gunny sergeant said something like "That was unbelievable shooting...a 5 inch three shot group at 1000 yards is impossible".

Now,of course not,and gunny knew it ( he'd shot one sighting the rifle in) and must have seen lots,even if he hasn't been to Diggle. Clearly, he did not mean it literally,but as a great compliment to the old vet. Saying gunny was incompetent/not knowledgeable/disrespectful of current spipers etc etc on the basis of what he said-easily enough edited out of context-would be ridiculous.

 

Sometimes,though the spokesperson may give away -leakage-a more serious lack of conviction-as perhaps by Jeremy Corvin's hesitancy about shoot to kill.

Be careful who you reject,lest you get something you did not want instead,who reveals some surprises that you -and lots of others-might regret,and doesn't do anygood ,anyhow.

 

:-)

 

gbal

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There you go gentlemen , so vote him away with your wallets.

OK, I have it on good authority from an insider that this article was actually published in 2009, and the only reason it's showing up now is because someone commented on it in Sept 2015 and it got bumped.

 

Mr Yardley has not had any articles published in Aceville Publications for over one year.....and there are no plans whatsoever to publish any in future

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OK, I have it on good authority from an insider that this article was actually published in 2009, and the only reason it's showing up now is because someone commented on it in Sept 2015 and it got bumped.

 

Mr Yardley has not had any articles published in Aceville Publications for over one year.....and there are no plans whatsoever to publish any in future

Informative , so which publictions is he writing for now?

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This is from the incoming Gun Mart editor Graham Allen.

 

I made my position clear to the Gun Mart publisher and MD and this is now on our Facebook page:

 

 

We have had a number of our loyal and long standing readers get in touch over recent comments made by Michael Yardley, we would like to clarify Michael Yardley is not a member of our staff and never has been. He is a freelance writer that, in the past submitted articles to us, and to many other shooting titles.

 

All of the writers for Gun Mart Magazine are freelance and we do not necessarily support the views of any of our contributors made outside of the pages of the magazine; plus we haven't published articles from Michael for some considerable time now, and have no plans to do so in the foreseeable future.

 

We do hope that you understand and continue to enjoy Gun Mart in the future.

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If you have not seen it,and have some interest in the fair representation of the wide spectrum of shooting,have a look at "Shooting: the sport" by Mike Yardley. It would be difficult to make a better presentation of the positives in shooting,across a very wide range of issues, in as few minutes,for the general public.

 

If you still feel that this is the sort of spokesperson for shooting that we should blackball,consider the old Swahili proverb;

 

" Before a man disposes of something of value,he should be sure to have something of value to replace it".

 

Which would be...? Why not both....?? Shooting needs all the good PR it can get,and deserves,not squabbles and unpleasantness on some pet personal preference,or perceived grievance.

 

Balance the public presentations, like the film,with any occasional ,out of context social media comments,if you must.No-one will think exactly as you do on everything-and that includes you-we all modify our views,as new information and experiences come to us. Or risk the Darwin award. :-)

 

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If you have not seen it,and have some interest in the fair representation of the wide spectrum of shooting,have a look at "Shooting: the sport" by Mike Yardley. It would be difficult to make a better presentation of the positives in shooting,across a very wide range of issues, in as few minutes,for the general public.

 

If you still feel that this is the sort of spokesperson for shooting that we should blackball,consider the old Swahili proverb;

 

" Before a man disposes of something of value,he should be sure to have something of value to replace it".

 

Which would be...? Why not both....?? Shooting needs all the good PR it can get,and deserves,not squabbles and unpleasantness on some pet personal preference,or perceived grievance.

 

Balance the public presentations, like the film,with any occasional ,out of context social media comments,if you must.No-one will think exactly as you do on everything-and that includes you-we all modify our views,as new information and experiences come to us. Or risk the Darwin award. :-)

 

gbal

`fraid I disagree , unless Yardley is in support of ALL legal shooting sports he is no use as a representative , I will continue to boycott anything he is connected with and carefully choose which shooting organisation I pay my membership fees to, contrary to what some believe many do support us.

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`fraid I disagree , unless Yardley is in support of ALL legal shooting sports he is no use as a representative , I will continue to boycott anything he is connected with and carefully choose which shooting organisation I pay my membership fees to, contrary to what some believe many do support us.

Me too, and if I do happen to come into possession of any of his writings, I will hang them on a nail next to the bog

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Sws-I emphasised the presentation of shooting to the wider public,emphasising what is good about shooting.Good luck with finding anyone who is completely preference free,and informed about all shooting,and equally supportive,and a good communicator. I am a BASC member,as that organisation seems the best balance currently available.

 

Mark, a pithy comment,as ever.Have you considered a modern toilet? Softly,softly does it better.

You are often quite outspoken,and I respect your views in your specialist interest (as you know,I have a black rifle ) but have reservations about someone who thinks the users of bipods in shooting are sexually deviant, as the completely fair minded advocate and spokesperson to the general non shooting public (though you don't want that job,do you?) :-)

 

I'm still not exactly clear what 'should' be tangling my nickers (I can spell my deviancy anyhow I like) in what MY says,or is alleged to think. But if it is so outrageous,rather than repeat it verbatim here,just give a a reliable reference,and I'll check it out,in the privacy of my next visit to the netty. :-) :-)

 

In my professional world -Ivory (not Faulty) Towers - he'd be invited to clarify,in the first instance....

 

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I'm sure Mike Yardley knows of a lot of the shooting related websites and I'm sure if he wanted to he could put up a reply or clarify his position although he would no doubt get rinsed for it.

 

Personally I don't really have much time for him whether he can shoot or not. Yes he comes across well however so do a number of other absolute weapons grade belters.

 

What he has done however is chin a lot of people off who have started digging and it appears that he may not be quite the person he claims to be regarding military service/counter terrorist experience etc. This could be his major downfall as, from reading other sites, the American gun press won't touch him now.

 

Unless he has provenance for his 'expertise', and in fact if he has 'over egged the custard' relating to his apparent military service/experience/expertise then he will soon become the person who no one goes to and thus, as a freelance, will not get any work published. If I was him I'd be trying to do some damage limitation, but he strikes me as being a bit to arrogant for that.

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George, you ask for a better representative. I would suggest the UK needs to find someone like Katka Triebel, someone who can articulate a meaningful response to the Eu proposal. Her 22 page report identifies many errors and lies within the whitepaper and she has also asked for the ombudsman to investigate members of the commission.

 

I can also say that she is a very nice lady to speak to.

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David,

Thanks- I've not had any joy yet in getting to Katka Treibel via Google,but can't altogether trust my German O level anyhow. I have no problem with intelligent well informed ladies,I hope! Do you have a 'reference' for her work ....I'm not at all up to speed on European legislation....

 

...all this despite having son/wife in Switzerland,speaking German,and son who outshot me with a Heckler and Koch (though that was in English)... :-)

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Mick,

You may well be right in the ways of the world.I have no truck with undue trading on somewhat suspect past experience. Some will be more punitive.

I was responsible for over 3000 (approx) students being admitted to a VERY competitive degree program in a 'top' University-I know their credentials were were checked,but ultimately what matters is how they came out...

(I might add that one-not the only-guiding selection criterion ,where credentials were not by conventional criteria,was the military one-not so much what you are born with,nor even your experience,but what use you had made of it (there is some compatible parable on this-think 'value added").

So, in the utimate amalysis,what someone contributes becomes the criterion.

I did have an early education that emphasised "Play up,play up...and play the game" (which had a substabntial military context),and also "the rank is but the guinea stamp,the man is the gold,nonetheless".

 

Enough arty stuff...bottom line is honesty matters,but so does what you actually contribute,and past record may,or not,not be relevant to your comtemporary merit.

 

 

 

 

MY seems OK on AYA shotguns.

He may not speak with any authority on high level military matters,contemporaneously.Few do:

 

But having just listened to a lecture by Mike Parker (ex very top brass) at Newcastle University, on the need for reform in the British military establishment ( including a reversal of the deference of leadership to staff work,if I hear him aright), 'good compliant conduct' may not be quite what is needed in a complex,contemporary conflict situation. His emphasis on "Human security" strikes me as absolutely central to most long term solution to conflicts in this world, including ISIS).

 

Others may be better positioned to comment,but posibly constrained-if MP is correct.

That is not saying MYs military record is relevant ,or not-it become a 'matter of record' only.

 

The AYA remains a good gun.

 

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Just amused by this 'compare and contrast':

 

Holy crap, he was taken captive, but his guile enabled him to escape:

 

“He was seized off the street in Beirut in 1982 (before Terry Waite and John McCarthy) but released shortly afterwards having befriended one of his captors.”

 

Or, same event:

 

Some people checked out whether he was American, he said no, then had a coffee with one of them who was from London:

 

“One of my first assignments was to go and take pictures of street life in the main drag. It was all so familiar from TV (save for the nasty feeling in the pit of one’s stomach and the smell in one’s nostrils). No sooner had I begun to raise my camera than a ring of steel - Kalshnikov muzzles - surrounded my head. “Americani??” (Are you American?) “La, La, Inglisi” (No, No, English). “Who you work for?” “Time..” “Ah, Times of London…very good” “Ummm…[cowarding out]…you speak English well” “Yes, I was a student in London” “Really, where did you go” “London University” “So, did I” “Really, I had an apartment in Notting Hill Gate” “So, did I”. “You know my friends want to take you away” “I gather that” “This is not a good thing.” “I gathered that as well” “Come…we talk”. Guns are lowered, hands stop gripping, we walk to a nearby café.
It dawned on me that the stakes were quite high now. I better not fluff it. We chatted about the good ‘ol days in London. We drank a couple of cups of coffee and, eventually, he seemed to relax. “

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Nick Stone?

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Just amused by this 'compare and contrast':

 

Holy crap, he was taken captive, but his guile enabled him to escape:

 

“He was seized off the street in Beirut in 1982 (before Terry Waite and John McCarthy) but released shortly afterwards having befriended one of his captors.”

 

Or, same event:

 

Some people checked out whether he was American, he said no, then had a coffee with one of them who was from London:

 

“One of my first assignments was to go and take pictures of street life in the main drag. It was all so familiar from TV (save for the nasty feeling in the pit of one’s stomach and the smell in one’s nostrils). No sooner had I begun to raise my camera than a ring of steel - Kalshnikov muzzles - surrounded my head. “Americani??” (Are you American?) “La, La, Inglisi” (No, No, English). “Who you work for?” “Time..” “Ah, Times of London…very good” “Ummm…[cowarding out]…you speak English well” “Yes, I was a student in London” “Really, where did you go” “London University” “So, did I” “Really, I had an apartment in Notting Hill Gate” “So, did I”. “You know my friends want to take you away” “I gather that” “This is not a good thing.” “I gathered that as well” “Come…we talk”. Guns are lowered, hands stop gripping, we walk to a nearby café.

It dawned on me that the stakes were quite high now. I better not fluff it. We chatted about the good ‘ol days in London. We drank a couple of cups of coffee and, eventually, he seemed to relax. “

 

Full of it!!!

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.bottom line(ish) is honesty matters,but so does what you actually contibute,and past record may,or not,not be relevant to the merit of contemporary opinions.

 

 

 

Depends what the opinions are on, who they're delivered to, and what happens as a result.

 

How would you feel about following advice on a heart condition from a self-styled Heart Surgeon who turns out to have practiced no medicine since leaving medical school (unusually early) and actually has no specific post-graduate training, qualifications or experience in heart medicine?

 

hmm, what about advice from the same person on changing a car tyre if he'd changed a few and seemed OK at it?

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Just amused by this 'compare and contrast':

 

Holy crap, he was taken captive, but his guile enabled him to escape:

 

“He was seized off the street in Beirut in 1982 (before Terry Waite and John McCarthy) but released shortly afterwards having befriended one of his captors.”

 

Or, same event:

 

Some people checked out whether he was American, he said no, then had a coffee with one of them who was from London:

 

“One of my first assignments was to go and take pictures of street life in the main drag. It was all so familiar from TV (save for the nasty feeling in the pit of one’s stomach and the smell in one’s nostrils). No sooner had I begun to raise my camera than a ring of steel - Kalshnikov muzzles - surrounded my head. “Americani??” (Are you American?) “La, La, Inglisi” (No, No, English). “Who you work for?” “Time..” “Ah, Times of London…very good” “Ummm…[cowarding out]…you speak English well” “Yes, I was a student in London” “Really, where did you go” “London University” “So, did I” “Really, I had an apartment in Notting Hill Gate” “So, did I”. “You know my friends want to take you away” “I gather that” “This is not a good thing.” “I gathered that as well” “Come…we talk”. Guns are lowered, hands stop gripping, we walk to a nearby café.

It dawned on me that the stakes were quite high now. I better not fluff it. We chatted about the good ‘ol days in London. We drank a couple of cups of coffee and, eventually, he seemed to relax. “

So he writes fiction ...we knew that :)

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I really dont care what his background is. Whether it is genuine or not. Whether he is a Walt or not.

 

What pisses me off is his totally prejudiced attitude towards one section of the shooting community based on what rifle they choose and what clothing they wear.

 

And I dont particularly like his assertion that the interest a certain section of the shooting community has is actually an "unhealthy" interest.

 

That said, I dont think its malicious - I think he just has illusions of his own self importance - he probably believes in the narrow minded drivel he spouts and feels the need to crusade.

 

I will boycott him for sure.

 

On the matter of a replacement spokesperson - one very worthy man does spring to mind. But I would not name him without first asking him if he wanted to be thrust into the limelight.

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